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justdidit
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Posted 01/01/2006  10:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add justdidit to your friends list  Get a Link to this Message

1- What is the process for colorization? Is it an overlay?

2- Is there any value in colorized coins or does any potential value diminish because of it?

3- Can a colorized coin be graded?

Thanks!



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ndgoflo
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Posted 01/01/2006  10:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ndgoflo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Hi and welcome to the forum! To answer your questions:
1.Ink-jet or silkscreen
2.No, then Yes
3.No
I have seen a few colorized coins that I liked, but knew that they were not worth the asking price so I stayed away. My Mom has bought me a few for Christmas before, then I told that her money could be spent better elsewhere.

What it comes down to is this. Do you ENJOY collecting colorized coins? Do YOU appreciate their "beauty"? If you answer yes, then they are something that you may wish to collect, only don't expect a return on your "investment".

Hope this helps, and if there is anything else, please ask, everyone here likes to help.


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justdidit
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Posted 01/01/2006  10:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add justdidit to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Thanks for the welcome!

I hope it's ok to post a photo here. Are the dots in the color due to silkscreening?

During my searches, I realized that the colorization may be a problem and would probably detract from the coin itself. The person who I purchased this coin from declared it's value at upwards of $200. I just want to confirm that I paid a ridiculous sum of money for it! sob! Why oh why did I ever buy it!







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crystalk64
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Posted 01/01/2006  11:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add crystalk64 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Many nations are now colorizing coins at their MINTS and these are collectable, desirable and many are highly sought after. Anything done to a coin after it leaves the Mint, in my humble opinion, is now nothing more than a conversation piece with no value other than precious metal content if there is any! In many nations world wide it is a crime to alter the appearance of their national coin and currency. It is only against the law in the U.S. if it is an attempt to defraud. I believe you have been done just that! Learn to shy away from the hucksters and con men, and their are plenty of them out there, including on TV who are willing to lie through their teeth to get your money.


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lim118
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Posted 01/02/2006  12:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lim118 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Fully agreed with the comments made by crystalk64....coloured by the Mints at the time of minting is a Mint issue and coloured afterwards by another party are colourised junk.

Some Mints produce really beautiful issues and it is very hard to get them now.Here is one of them from the Australian Kookaburra series.



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lim118
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Posted 01/02/2006  12:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lim118 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Here is another one minted in 2005 by the Perth Mint. Mintage of 40,000 of which 2,000 only went on sale in Australia. The rest was sold overseas. Today, this coin has more than doubled in price if you can get one.I have not seen one listed on eBay for more than 6 months and dealers here do not have them.

Have a Look. Warning, it is a high resolution photo

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Posted 01/02/2006  12:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Just cant seem to get myself into the colorised coins ,

Dont let it bother you justdidit ! If 200.00 bucks was all I spent before I got the book ! I would be more than happy !

Just keep in mind you will probly hear this more than once, buy the book, study the coin, then buy the coin.

This takes the hucksters power away from them, education is the key ,, and even then a coin collector will buy something off the wall, I think its just our nature.

Rick





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justdidit
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Posted 01/02/2006  07:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add justdidit to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Thanks for confirming my foolish mistake...I will definately be staying away from colorized coins in the future! Luckily I only lost $60.00 in this deal, that's what I paid for it.

Those Aussie coins are stunning btw! Thanks for posting them!

So, my lessons learned today:
1- Do your research.
2- Don't buy "too much" on whim
3- Stay away from colorized coins unless they're too pretty to pass up :)
4- Keep an eye out for the year of the rooster coin!

Rick...you mentioned a book...what book should I invest in?

Thanks!



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Posted 01/02/2006  08:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add national dealer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

quote:
Originally posted by justdidit
The person who I purchased this coin from declared it's value at upwards of $200.


Ask this person what "they" pay to buy them back.
If you were to offer this coin to us, the purchase price would be $3.96 and I would happily sell it for $7.00 Maybe $10 if I saw someone really "wanted" the thing.

I will add this:

Any US coin that has been colorized has lost its numismatic value. Same goes for the plated coins. (racketeer nickel exception)

We have bought a few over the years for customers who wished to waste their money, but I will not pay anything over 60% bullion for the piece.

I get calls every week from someone who paid 20 dollars or more for a colorized Silver Eagle, and it breaks my heart.

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Posted 01/02/2006  08:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wrk4lvg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

quote:
Originally posted by justdidit



Rick...you mentioned a book...what book should I invest in?

Thanks!





Ditto


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Posted 01/02/2006  08:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rggoodie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

I have one colorized Roo.
It was not done by the mint but after market colouring done by Downies before the Mint required them to Stop.

Obtained it because of the rairity of such coins.
I do not think it is pretty at all.
Just a conversation piece


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wrk4lvg
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Posted 01/02/2006  08:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wrk4lvg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

I have one or 2 colored ASE. I didn't buy them, but I do like them. However, now having read the above, I won't buy one in the future. Unless it's just a very nice(looking) piece that I just have to have.


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Posted 01/02/2006  09:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add crystalk64 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Rule of thumb----If it is done at the MINT it will always be a collectable----If done after leaving the Mint it will always be a worthless, altered coin that for the most part, you can't sell or give away!
The colorized Lunar Series from Australia is very popular down there and now that the world is catching on the secondary market is VERY strong on these items. The 2006 Year of the Dog is currently available and, if you like color, I wouldn't wait to long to try and locate one! Canada is also turning out some mint colored coins so you might have a look there as well!


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justdidit
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Posted 01/02/2006  09:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add justdidit to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Hi Terry,

I just read that the US mint does not produce or sell colorized coins, not even commemorative sets etc.

I guess if I'm going to buy any in the future, it should come from a mint that produces them directly.

The Lunar series is wonderful and while I now have developed somewhat of an aversion to colorized coins lol, I may just indulge!

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bromac
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Posted 01/02/2006  1:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bromac to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

The Royal Canadian Mint has done many coloured coins, My avatar is just one example. For me, I like them all and I have lots of them.

Bill

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Posted 01/02/2006  2:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

quote:
Originally posted by wrk4lvg

[quote]Originally posted by justdidit



Rick...you mentioned a book...what book should I invest in?

Thanks!





Ditto

The term book refers to books particular to any series that you may decide to collect, For me those are reference books for Mercury dimes, and Lincoln cents,

related material for die varieties, I use Breens Encyclopedia of US and colonial coins, Morgan Dollars would be the VAM book, Krause also produces a great reference ,, Redbook although not a true price guide is very useful for pictures, weights ,compositions of coins, ANA grading standards is another book that should be bought,Photograde
and other similar publications.

The whole Idea of buy the book, Is that a person educate themselves about any particular series of coins before buying, The resources of this forum are a great asset also, with folks who collect just about anything and everything here, it really can save a person alot of money on reference material..

combined knowledge here, with ND, catman, Nohope, Crystalk, Susanlynn, well you get the Idea, Is without a doubt second to none on the net.

If you need or want to purchase books that are of a particular coin ask which are used by the folks here, for any given series, Then Buy the book.

Rick



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