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ageka
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Susanlynn9
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 Posted 04/10/2005 08:00 am
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I don't like the look of the surface except around the letters. His picture is not that great (it looks like a scan) and only one side is pictured. My initial feeling when looking at this coin was that it was dug and cleaned. There is also considerable wear on it. This seller already has a couple of negatives for fake coins and a couple more for misrepresentation. He may occasionally sell high-dollar coins, but overall I'm not impressed and would think twice before purchasing from this seller.
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ageka
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bobby131313
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Posted 04/10/2005 08:43 am
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That is absolutely a scan, not a photo. You can tell by the rose colored edge of the shadow. That happens only with scanners when scanning gold.
Gold does not scan well at all, neither does silver. Copper scans sort of OK if you do it at high resolution, at least 400 DPI.
You will never get an indication of what a coin truly looks like from a scan, I don't care what kind of scanner it is or who is operating it. Its 2 dimensional.
As an example...
Same coin.
Scanned at 400 dpi...
Photographed at 72 dpi...
Note that in the scan, none of the scratches in the right field show up, and some would say the coin has been cleaned from that scan.
Also note, the coin has some luster left which noone would ever believe from the scan, but they would from the photograph.
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Please bear in mind that the seller is a master in lighting and
photography
Sorry but I have to disagree. He's just laying them on a scanner.
His customers are getting an extremely basic image that is very innaccurate.
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Susanlynn9
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Posted 04/10/2005 08:45 am
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Ageka, as far as the auction in your link, I see a deep scratch on the cheek, slight wear on the cheekbone and lower jaw and a few too many minor contact marks. The wear takes it right out of the MS category. My initial feeling would be EF40. Though this impression could be due to the fact that it is a scan and not a picture.
I think you made a wise choice to stop buying from him. There are a lot of ways for a seller to inflate the price of his/her auctions. Since I looked a quite a few of his auctions, I'm not sure why he would be getting top dollar for his items.
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ageka
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Susanlynn9
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Posted 04/10/2005 09:08 am
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That makes sense. He really should invest in a camera, though. It is extremely difficult to grade coins that are scanned as opposed to photographed.
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ageka
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bobby131313
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Posted 04/10/2005 09:40 am
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Photos scare me because of what can be hidden in the glare
Glare problems can be avoided with a little effort, the problem is laziness. 
Proofs are the toughest, and I don't have a problem. Took some trial and error to figure out all the "parameters" but once you do, you can blow right through them. Most sellers just don't take the time because they think its much more involved than it really is.
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ageka
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Farstaff
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USA
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Posted 04/10/2005 12:16 pm
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Can you share some of your secrets on using a camera? I have a digital camera and after numberous attempts still can not get a decent picture of silver/gold coins.
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national dealer
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Posted 04/10/2005 4:33 pm
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Okay folks,
Let me add this. Buying coins by photos is simply taking a risk that is unnecessary. Eventually you WILL get burned. There are way too many ways to edit a photo to hide flaws. Luster is such an important aspect of grading and price that it has to be considered. No picture will accurately show this.
Anytime you are spending your hard earned money, you should know your dealer. (or seller if that is your case). I buy many coins sight unseen, but 100% come from dealers that I know well. I take the same care in buying a $100 coin as I do in buying a $500,000 coin. If there is any doubt what so ever, pass on it. Unless you are looking for a coin with a population of less than 10 your odds of finding another one are pretty good.
Now questions have been raised about this seller. If there is a question about the person, again I would suggest side on caution. Too many collectors buy what is available. They get caught up in the whole "auction" thing.
Be careful folks, there are far more dishonest people than honest.
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Mike
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catman
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Farstaff
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Posted 04/12/2005 6:59 pm
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Mik
Thank you for the welcome. I am a collector of Franklins, Walkers & Merc's.
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