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Kithara On An Obol : A Mystery (At Least For Me)

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Hi, I just purchased a Greek obol that seems to be unpublished. The obverse represents a kithara, and the reverse is similar to coins from Aeolis. But I have no idea of the origin. The auction house does not take any position on this. It is possibly a unique coin.

Does anyone from the community have other views on the subject matter?
Thanks.
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Not really a lot of help, but size and weight is similar to this coin.

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That looks like a pretty good match to the OP's coin @novi. Interesting that neither auction house was able to find a good reference for it.
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CNG Sale: They priced it at $100 and it sold for $373 in March 2025. Before the buyers fee. Try not to drop it on the carpet.

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Interesting that neither auction house was able to find a good reference for it.

It's not so much "no references" it's more "nobody actually knows what city it came from". With no lettering or obvious word-pun picture on it, the coin itself doesn't tell us where it came from. Which means we need archaeological evidence: "most of these were found in Ephesus, therefore the coin was most likely struck in Ephesus", that sort of thing.

With it still being classified as "unknown" in 2025, this can only mean that the archaeological evidence is either unclear or largely absent. It's entirely possible that its city of origin is an "unknown city" - a city which has been effectively erased from history, because nobody mentioned it in surviving records and the source city remains an unexcavated ruin.
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Thank you for all your answers.I'll try not to drop it on the carpet or leave it in a pocket (it happened to me once to put a small bronze coin from Crete in a pocket and to drop it in a Conference Hall, probably a lucky guy found it, I wonder if he could identify it)! But no jokes this time. It is my first unknown coin, and this is quite exciting !
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If you have an NGC account and have it slabbed that would assure it's value forever. And make sure it was never lost. People hate doing that to ancients as they want to handle them, but handling such a small coin is a different story and it will be great to do if you were sending a bunch of others ones in anyway for processing.
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