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 Posted 10/25/2011  7:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's another example of a coin I shot with just one of these lamps.
Not perfect lighting, but I like how the LED helps resolve detail.

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 Posted 10/25/2011  10:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Fatboy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Seems the availability of these is a problem. I have an IKEA fairly near me. I believe strongly in these, so if SuperDave's assessment is positive, and enough folks are interested, I'd be willing to make a mass purchase and ship them out at cost. I think three or maybe 4 will fit in a medium flat rate box. Let me know interest and I'll check to see what will fit and how much it would cost to ship
I would be interested in 2 if you do this.
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 Posted 10/26/2011  01:01 am  Show Profile Check rmpsrpms's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK, at least 2 folks are interested so I figure on the following.

Up to 4 lamps will fit in a Medium Flat Rate Box.

Cost breakdown would be:
9.99 + 0.90 CA Tax Each = 10.98 ->$11 each
10.95 + 0.70 Priority FRB + Delivery Conf = 11.65 ->$12
1.00 packing peanuts or bubbles
1.00 Gas (assuming at least 5 folks are interested)

Then 2 Lamps would be $36, 3 Lamps $47, and 4 Lamps $58.

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Although different colors are available I will only buy silver or black. When you email me with the request please let me know how many to buy of which color(s).

I'm going out of town and will return next Fri 11/3, so will give folks until then to email me with their request. I'll make the purchase on Sat 11/4 and ship out early the next week.

I will put delivery confirmation on the package for tracking.

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 Posted 10/26/2011  01:22 am  Show Profile Check SsuperDdave's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If my assessment weren't already positive, I wouldn't have spent 8 hours and the price of the lamps in fares to go get them.

They've already been proven by those more than my equal as photographers. They fit my own personal concept of how a coin light should be structured - very small without being a pin source. They're infinitely positionable, cheap as heck, and last forever. What's not to like?
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 Posted 10/26/2011  01:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dave, how are people getting the best results with these--as single light source or multiples with overlap?
I could certainly buy more..the price is right!
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 Posted 10/26/2011  02:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add aladinslamp to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I really don't think these are used as stand alone..It takes a balance of lighting to cover the entire coin without having a shadow effect, with light or detail on one side of the coin and a lack of there on the other side...Remember in general for this post (for COINS) we are dealing in highly detailed examples(photo's) Using at least 2 lights that presents a balance of which is needed for very close up HIGHLY detailed shots..IMHO
Lighting is EXEMPLARY for this field, and different metals require different situations....The one thing I might not. is....The size of these lamps, are quite small...so they may be even closer upon the coin, reflecting better to the "SENSOR" than larger bulb types..Such as the CFL type bulbs
many use today, but are very large and present a larger distanse angle from the light source to the camera..
SO the CFL bulbs, with the lamp enclosure, is much farther away from being directly over head on top of the coin..
meaning the smaller lamp can be closer to being directly over and the "best angle of lighting possible over the coin" even with a smaller lamp.....Remember its all about the light not the wattage..and how they can be used
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 Posted 10/26/2011  04:09 am  Show Profile Check SsuperDdave's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm about to shine one on a coin for the first time. In practice, they're quite similar to the MR16 halogens I normally use, which are mounted on gooseneck track fittings and deploy from above rather than below. One of the main things I actually expect to gain is a lessening of the ambient temperature around my photography - the halogens used to get dimmed down after each image if I was moving the coin, just so my lens hood wouldn't melt.

I'm going to lose in terms of exposure, because these are not nearly as bright as the halogens. I suspect this might actually become a factor with duller coins, as there are times I'm already down to 1/15 with 100 watts of halogen beating down on the coin. There will be times when the halogens will be favored over the LED's; this will be reflected in my final lighting setup.

The basic technique hasn't changed. It's still either "one at 2:00" or "two at 10 and 2," with the final angle determined by the relative luminosity of the coin, according to the paradigm by which we've been taught constitutes a "good coin picture."

However, the Jansjo's offer a huge potential over the halogens in that they can easily be used with tweaks such as Ray's Super Diffuser design, which has thrown me into a whole 'nuther frame of mind about how to shoot truly lustrous stuff. I'm going to move for a bit towards longer exposures under lesser lighting, maybe with some directed diffusion (think about that term without your brain hurting ). It might be possible to somewhat tweak that paradigm we've been living under.

It's gonna be a long winter. I have a lot to play with, and these Jansjo's are but one player in the game. The first foray will be more in the P&S direction; I've a new one which seems to rather enjoy shooting coins. Mind you, this was hastily set up (with two Jansjos), no Custom White Balance, handheld, and downsized to post here:



That was the 8th image I've shot with the camera, and the very first on the Macro setting. I'm amazed that it was able to do this at 1/160 in Aperture Priority, and stabilize the image with my moving-target hands. It's a heck of a little piece, my first non-Canon camera with this kind of promise, and worth finding out what it can actually do.

What camera? Heh. Either extract the EXIF data (it's still there), or wait for the thread.
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 Posted 10/26/2011  08:28 am  Show Profile Check wheatiefan's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add wheatiefan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am also joining the jansjo light bandwagon. I have a nearby Ikea and bought two black for $9.99 each. I'd been trying to finagle a setup using CFLs (rather than 4ft shop lights) but figured for the price I'd get the recommended stuff. I'm using a simple point and shoot also.

I like that they have screw holes so can be mounted independent of the base. I haven't tried it, but in the future I might ditch the heavy, bulky base and mount them separately.

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 Posted 10/26/2011  10:00 am  Show Profile Check rmpsrpms's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's an example showing the Jansjo's mounted to my microscope stand. This is an old pic showing my original Super Diffusers. I'm using my new Directors now...Ray

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 Posted 10/26/2011  12:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Lobby to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cool info. I need to get to an Ikea...
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 Posted 10/26/2011  6:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's a pretty sweet lighting setup! I need to get another lamp or two and improve my lighting technique.
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 Posted 10/29/2011  3:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add RMAN4443 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
let me start by saying thanks for the offer rmp,but I'm gonna have to cancel out on the 3 lamps I asked about earlier.It was very generous of you to offer to go out of your way like that.The reason I'm canceling is because I was at TARGET the other day and found an almost identical clone of the janso lamps.The cost was 14.99,so I picked up 3 of them,and they seem to work very well.
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 Posted 10/30/2011  12:27 am  Show Profile Check rmpsrpms's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, so far no takers on my offer. I'll give everyone til Fri as planned but unless I get around 5 folks interested in these it won't make sense to pool the purchase...Ray
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 Posted 10/31/2011  01:54 am  Show Profile Check westcoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They look nice, I have an Ikea near me in North Dallas, says they are in stock, hope they still have them when I get back home from Santa Clara next week. Thanks for the tip.
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 Posted 10/31/2011  02:06 am  Show Profile Check SsuperDdave's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think finding them in stock will be a problem. At the store I went to, they were bulkstacked by the hundreds at differing locations - I think they're a loss-leader.
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