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 Posted 01/18/2012  12:19 am Show Profile Check SsuperDdave's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Message

A quick quiz. More to come.





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 Posted 01/18/2012  12:48 am  Show Profile Check westcoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see the 2 cracks but not the scribbles a new VAM die pairing Dave? Don't want to give away too much either, if not scribbles then I know what it is - nice find.
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 Posted 01/18/2012  12:56 am  Show Profile Check SsuperDdave's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nope - it's a known VAM.
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 Posted 01/18/2012  07:21 am  Show Profile Check westcoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well then, like I said I know what it is!

I'll wait for others to post first, that's a really nice looking dollar Dave!
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 Posted 01/18/2012  08:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter53562 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The suspense is killing me....lol
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 Posted 01/18/2012  08:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Need better pictures.
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 Posted 01/18/2012  09:20 am  Show Profile Check nlp coins's eBay Listings Check nlp coins's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add nlp coins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice pics and find. I assume that's not a "gouge" on the slab right wing. 3F2
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 Posted 01/18/2012  10:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add CaptainFwiffo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I know! It's shiny. That is my final answer.
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 Posted 01/18/2012  10:21 am  Show Profile Check SeatedNut's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SeatedNut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Man I hate not being able to play at work.

I can see the obverse, but not the reverse picture. I'll assume it's a 21-D. I also can't access any VamWorld sites so no "crack guide". I've nipped Dave's obverse picture and highlighted the prominent obverse cracks. Someone else will need to use the crack guide to come up with an attribution (assuming again it's a 21-D). Or if no one steps up I'll do it tonight.



Would sure like to compare with the 21-D VAM 1O (one-Oh).

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 Posted 01/18/2012  11:33 am  Show Profile Check SsuperDdave's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Nice pics and find. I assume that's not a "gouge" on the slab right wing. 3F2


Ding! We have a winner.



The previous Condition Census grade, to the best of my knowledge, is MS63. The popularity of 3F2 among VAMmers is indicated by the fact that, of the 3 subvarieties (3F1, 3F2, 3F3), ANACS only has a separate population listing for 3F2.

2012 looks to be a good year.
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 Posted 01/18/2012  1:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice pick! Is this a hole filler or an upgrade?
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 Posted 01/18/2012  5:27 pm  Show Profile Check westcoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was right on the money on the VAM Dave, sweet looking coin, great luster too!
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 Posted 01/19/2012  01:06 am  Show Profile Check SsuperDdave's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Nice pick! Is this a hole filler or an upgrade?


As with most of my purchases, it's most likely going to be a catch-and-release. Like biologists, I catch them, tag them (photographically), and then let them go.
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How much value does this VAM add to the coin?
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 Posted 01/19/2012  02:12 am  Show Profile Check trout1105's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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As with most of my purchases, it's most likely going to be a catch-and-release. Like biologists, I catch them, tag them (photographically), and then let them go.


send it to me, I;ll scale and gut it if you are to squeamish
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 Posted 01/19/2012  11:18 am  Show Profile Check SsuperDdave's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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How much value does this VAM add to the coin?


I can't say I'm sure. I expect that its' premium lies more with the grade than the VAM; popularity is iffy in the sense that the only real demand for the vast majority of VAMs is in the upper end of the grade scale since there are still relatively few serious VAM collectors.

There's only one other "known" MS65 VAM-3F, a 3F3 which hammered for $345 at Heritage in 2004. That's encouraging; it's almost 3 times what I paid for this coin.

As we speak, there is a 3F3 in ANACS MS63 on Heritage, and 3 AU VAM-3F2's on eBay plus an "unknown" (not represented in any counts of Condition Census) 3F3 in NGC MS65 (overgraded, IMO). This points out a problem in the current world of VAMming - people are holding back knowledge of coins in the interest of higher profits. I'll be watching the results of these auctions.

So, is the coin presented here at the top of the Condition Census by two full grades? Unknown. I will guarantee, though, that it's going to be a part of the public record just as soon as I can get it under my own lens.
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