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Valued Member
United States
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I'm just shooting a guess here, but that last one looks like Fuld 36/340 to me.
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Moderator
United States
3858 Posts |
you have it correct Fuld 36/340. Now if someone can give me a value. This one was a little pricey, just want to see if I wasted my money.
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Pillar Of The Community
United States
714 Posts |
Fuld lists the 36/340a as an R-2 (501-2000 known specimens)
Your specimen does not look to be a weak strike, and appears quite circulated.
If you haven't already, you're going to find that most folks don't like to respond to questions pertaining to value, or how much someone paid. Much of it is subjective.
The conundrum with people asking for pricing is that terms like "pricey" and "wasted" is all subjective. What's inexpensive for one person may be quite dear for another, and what someone may perceive as "wasted," another may perceive as a great find.
Also, with Patriotics and many CWTs, there aren't a good set of pricing. Kanzinger provided a "guide" in 2003 for CWTs, but IMO his prices aren't that particularly accurate either.
That said, given its rarity and wear, I personally wouldn't have paid more than $12 bucks "retail" for the specimen. (I hope this doesn't insult, as it was not my intention. You asked.)
Finally -- however it turns out for the pricing on this particular specimen, I think you're doing a great job building a CWT and Patriotic collection :)
And for infrequent instances where you might have a question but would be more comfortable asking via PM, CCF does offer that option, and I can receive them. :)
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Edited by CheetahCats 02/07/2012 3:30 pm
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Pillar Of The Community
United States
714 Posts |
Here is another Civil War era type token. Though considered by many to be a medalet, I believe it falls within the purview of this thread's discussion. Struck by the Scoville Manufacturing Company of Waterbury Connecticut, a total of 15,000 in brass, 7 in silver, and 75 in copper were made. The specimen pictured, a Dewitt-1860-59, was struck in copper. Given the surviving number of copper specimens known, this gives it a rarity rating of R-7 on the Fuld Rarity Scale. 
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Moderator
United States
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I can understand about value and price being subjective. It was a bit more than your estimate, but I will just consider that an education. I agree that my use of the term "wasted" wasn't a good choice. I will learn more about CWTs, and if I make purchases, I should be more educated.
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Moderator
United States
3858 Posts |
My latest addition  1863 CWT Capped Head / In Remembrance of the War of 1861 '62 '63  FYI - I am going to a coin show this Sunday, and I will see if someone has CWT for sale and/or a book about CWT.
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Valued Member
United States
361 Posts |
Saw the great pics and the Elephantine in particular so I thought I would share as well. Hope I have the attributions done correctly. Trade and Commerce F259-445 Nice color but looks flat in the pics.   PH J. Seiter's Market 630BQ-1B Brass with a great luster   Straight's Elephantine 10F-1a Decent XF with nice color. Great design.  
Edited by cointagous 02/11/2012 2:26 pm
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Rest in Peace
United States
9104 Posts |
Great color on the F259-445 and ellelump in tennies.
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Pillar Of The Community
United States
714 Posts |
Ping. Here are a few more to kickstart the thread... Carl Haas - Coffee House OH165BJ-12A Fuld R-2  Carl Paeschke - Dry Goods WI-510AE-4a Fuld R-8  E.Aschermann & Co - Cigars & Tobacco WI510A-1a Fuld R-5 
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Edited by CheetahCats 02/17/2012 08:46 am
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Pillar Of The Community
United States
1158 Posts |
CheetahCats . . your collection and your photography just blow me away. I have none of these to post but sure am enjoying the show. On your Carl Haas, was the name repunched on all the specimens?
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Pillar Of The Community
United States
714 Posts |
Quote: CheetahCats . . your collection and your photography just blow me away. I have none of these to post but sure am enjoying the show. On your Carl Haas, was the name repunched on all the specimens? Thanks for the kind words Jeff. There are a multitude of varieties for Carl Haas that employ the rabbit device. Not all were repunched.
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New Member
United States
46 Posts |
NGC MS-62BN civil war token 1863 new york, ny. F-620BS-2A STAUDINGER'S STORE CARD. NGC MS-62 BN. beautiful mint state token staudinger's 116 broadway. new york- reverse shield 1863- obverse   [/img]
Edited by augold 02/20/2012 4:18 pm
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Pillar Of The Community
United States
714 Posts |
@augold - beautiful token you have, and terrific variety too!  Below is the NY630BS-1a, a different variety of the Staudinger's than yours. Engraved by Roloff, this one is but only R-2, and is about mint state.  Thanks, Cheetah
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Edited by CheetahCats 02/20/2012 4:31 pm
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New Member
United States
46 Posts |
Cheetahcats.
I am a newbee,
what is the R rating on my Staudinger's above? also, how do you obtain such clear photos?
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Pillar Of The Community
United States
714 Posts |
@AuGold - The R rating stands for rarity; rarity meaning how many are estimated to remain existing. George and Melvin Fuld developed a Rarity scale for Civil War Storecards, Patriotics, and Sutler tokens. There are a multitude of rarity scales, developed by different numismatists, based on numerous types of coin emissions. You can see a listing of the most popular rarity scales here, on my research website: http://www.novanumismatics.com/arti...rarities.phpAs per the photography, I utilize a modified technique of axial lighting and glass when photographing my specimens. I go over this technique here: http://www.numissociety.com/showthr...budget+axial
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Edited by CheetahCats 02/21/2012 5:16 pm
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