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Kortesas
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Hello everyone.
I would like to ask about this coin that found when metal detected. As I know one shilling 1918 should be of 925 probe but this one doesn't look like a silver at all. So I guess it is fake?
Moved to British Coins forum - Sap
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Pillar Of The Community
Canada
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It looks copper plated and the plating is peeling off.
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Pillar Of The Community
Australia
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 It could be a contemporary forgery or it could just be encrusted with something
Aim to Enjoy life. You only get one shot at it
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New Member
Lithuania
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Thank you very much for your opinions and welcome :) Seems to be I need to get back to that place and look if I will find anything more.
Thank you :)
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Rest in Peace
United States
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, Kortesas! It looks cast. Does it ring like silver? Weight? That edge separation doesn't look right.
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A Shilling was worth something in 1918; there would be a good profit motive to counterfeit.
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Australia
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The usual cheap methods to identify any fake coin:
1.General appearance
2.Close examination under magnification
3.Ring test
4.Weigh it
5.Diameter
6.Discussion on this Forum
7.Take it to an experienced dealer for an opinion.
8.A superimposed image of the suspected fake over an image of a known genuine example is a powerful tool to aid the identification of fake coins.
9.Scientific tests may be available, but they can cost an arm and a leg.
If it is an ancient, style and fabric should be considered and Forums that have a list of known fakes is a great help.
Keep any fake coins you have for personal reference. Don't ever sell them. That would be NASTY! Give them away to people who have a strong interest in numismatics, not your friends who may not.
That should weed out 98% of fakes. It is the other 2% that worry me.
For the other 2% all of the above may not be good enough. If you are really keen to buy a big ticket item, it will have to come from an auction or dealer with an internationally recognised reputation and trust them. keep all of the purchase and provenance information.
Is the coin pictured a fake? I think it is, but I only have the picture plus opinions expressed here, to help me to that opinion.
Edited by sel_69l
01/30/2012 01:07 am
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New Member
Lithuania
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Biggfredd,
coin weight is 5.28 grams. It is not a silver (not a 925 or 500 probe). Definitely other metal. I don't know the weight of original coin.
Sel_69l, not going to sell it :) In any case it is not from a flea market but I personally dug out. If it is fake then it is a unique coin. Probably a fake from period when this coin circulated. It has different numismatic worth. We can't compare this fake to modern fakes.
Thank you for help :)
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Lithuania
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By the way, I tested on magnet. It doesn't stick to magnet. Size of coin is 1:1 to original size.
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Your coin is underweight by ~ 7%. I'm guessing an intentional fake in bronze/brass that may have had a silver wash to pass in circulation. Burial in the ground probably stripped off what remained of the plating.
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Canada
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Still a great find to locate that piece, arguably better than finding a real one.
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Australia
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Still a great find to locate that piece, arguably better than finding a real one  Whoever made this was taking one heck of a risk so that makes this coin far more interesting than a genuine shilling in my opinion.
Aim to Enjoy life. You only get one shot at it
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Probably a fake from period when this coin circulated. The term for that is "contemporary" counterfeit.
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New Member
Lithuania
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Hello everyone, thank you for help. I really appreaciate. Biggfredd, thank you. In future I will know. Today again went to the same woods and found six pence 1914. Weight is 2.7g. It should be 925 probe but ...   |
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Valued Member
United States
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Interesting piece ... it peels like an electrotype but no seam on the edge? Not cast the letters are too well defined.Reeded edge. Unusual. Too bad your not from NJ (USA) but Lithuania like to XRF this baby. Interesting CC.
John Lorenzo
United States
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Posted 01/29/2012 4:00 pm
