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Worn Die or something else?

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RogerD
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 Posted 02/03/2012  2:57 pm Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add RogerD to your friends list Get a Link to this Message

First thing that caught my attention was the shiny island with no rocks, then a bald beaver, after that it was the messed up hair from an almost namless chick.

It's looking like the normally bushy beaver has been trimmed, so this makes me think its not a worn die...until its flipped over to the obverse. After looking into the queens eyes a bit interest was drwn to her rather flat matted hair.

Hmm, was this just circulation wear? Did she just get around too much? What was her name anyway? Is it Eliza or Beth?



So what is your opinion, die wear or from just tramping around.

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 Posted 02/03/2012  3:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add darryldarryl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am seeing striations all over the place!
Post Mint Damage in my opinion!
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 Posted 02/03/2012  3:32 pm  Show Profile Check biokemist6's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can you post full pics of both sides? Parallel striations are not necessarily a sign of PMD, a weak strike can result in a mushy center and leave remnants of the original planchet striations. Planchet striations are formed from the metal stock being rolled out to proper thickness before the blanks are punched out, those lines are normally obliterated when a planchet receives a full strike.
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I'm leaning with biokemist6, can we see both sides full view and can you get an accurate weight?
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 Posted 02/03/2012  3:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add darryldarryl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
RogerD...Lets get a few more pictures up.
A full picture of the obverse would be great!
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Almost looks like there is a second eye and extra claws!
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Thanks for the quick responses, it was really unexpected.
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 Posted 02/03/2012  5:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add RogerD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unfortunately there is nothing to weigh it with.
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That coin looks wrong, I think it has a flash plate of nickel only over the steel planchet. Probably missing both the copper plate and the final nickel plate. That's how a flash coat of nickel looks and that's how it would strike up. These are hit very softly in comparison to nickel or cupro nickel alloys, the thickness affect everything.

If you can get it weighed, I bet you a new loonie that it's underweight.
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Sorry about the quality of the obverse, lighting was an issue. The loss of metal on the lettering on both sides of the obverse is what I find confusing, assuming its not from die wear. Just seems odd that both sides would encounter the same thing at the same time.
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If it's too thin because it's missing two stages of plating, it didn't strike up.
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 Posted 02/05/2012  2:10 pm  Show Profile Check Scissel's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Scissel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From the hub-doubling of the beaver claws, this must be a 2006 coin.

The weak-strike errors I have seen are most noticeable near the rim, whereas the dots on this coin look fairly well struck.

I think the planchet was not annealed properly. If the planchet metal is too hard it will not strike-up very well.
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02/05/2012 2:19 pm
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