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VAM Assistance - 1879-S Morgan (Large S over Small S?)

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 Posted 03/04/2012  11:40 pm Show Profile Check oih82w8's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add oih82w8 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message

I was about to list a 1879-S (REV of 79) Morgan on eBay, but I thought that I would give the "once over" with my DinoLite before listing it, since it is one of the most common Morgans out there. I noticed a "cup" on the bottom of the 8 and a drop on the 7 in the date. Then I looked on the reverse to find the mint mark irregularity, it appears to be a Large S over a Small S. One of the differences between the REV of 78 and RV of 79 on the 1879-S is the size of the S (78 being small and 79 being large). Could stamping over the Small S with the Large S happen?

Any help would be greatly appreciated since I am way new at VAM's.





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 Posted 03/05/2012  06:54 am  Show Profile Check twohawks's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add twohawks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just an S/S there are many 79 Morgans with an S/S I would need to see the whole coin
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 Posted 03/05/2012  11:14 am  Show Profile Check oih82w8's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add oih82w8 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks twohawks, see if these can help, or if there is someplace in particular you need additional zoom on...



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 Posted 03/05/2012  8:12 pm  Show Profile Check SsuperDdave's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
VAM-12, I think. Believe I see the appropriate doubling on the 7, and it lacks the closed 9 of VAM-11.
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 Posted 03/05/2012  9:51 pm  Show Profile Check oih82w8's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add oih82w8 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't see the "doubling" of the "7", but, what about the bottom of the "8" and "7"?
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03/05/2012 10:26 pm
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 Posted 03/06/2012  12:13 am  Show Profile Check twohawks's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add twohawks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks Like a Vam-11 to me!

Opp's missed the open "9" that makes it a Vam-12
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03/06/2012 12:16 am
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 Posted 03/06/2012  11:03 pm  Show Profile Check oih82w8's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add oih82w8 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pardon my ignorance, but I don't see the similarity in the VAM-11 and the notches in the bottom of the 8 and 7 of the date of my Morgan.
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03/06/2012 11:38 pm
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 Posted 03/07/2012  04:55 am  Show Profile Check twohawks's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add twohawks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The only photo up is a late die state coin that has been over polished. I see the indent on the 8 and what looks too be PMD on the bottom of the 7. You could send it to Leroy as I know he has boxes of reference info in his basement storage. But from what I can see in your coin and the description it falls to "the die is the die" The reverse is a dead ringer and the date type matches the VAM description.

Your coin just looks to be an early die state of the Vam-12
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03/07/2012 04:56 am
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 Posted 03/07/2012  9:33 pm  Show Profile Check oih82w8's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add oih82w8 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks to all!
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