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 Posted 03/08/2012  09:15 am Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Mutargim to your friends list Get a Link to this Message

Need HELP! This part of an old -may be Antique - coin was used as a bargaining chip in extreme circumstances - simply as a piece of metal (because there was no local coinage or regular money supplay from anywhere in a place there it was found). But the edge of the coin is very special: it resembles the teeth of the saw. The metal of the coin is, likely, Brass.






Was this coin Antique? Medieval? European? Indian? or Arabian?

Experts' feedback would be very helpful and GREATLY appreciated.
I am very interested to know any available information about this unfortunated coin. Thank you!

Mutargim


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03/08/2012 2:29 pm
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 Posted 03/08/2012  09:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jessvc1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to be honest im not really the most qualified here to answer your question but it doesnt really look like a coin to me maybe a piece of something that broke off? unless its a large greek bottletop coin.
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 Posted 03/08/2012  11:01 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mutargim to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you! Bottletop is a good term - for instanse, for this ancient Macedonia coin -
http://www.copper-tubes.net/images/...niancoin.jpg
But the edge of this piece is like a saw with ^ ^ ^ ^ with sharp and sparse teeth.

And it was once surely a coin.
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 Posted 03/08/2012  1:22 pm  Show Profile Check echizento's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to the community.

It is going to be very difficult to identify what this is. It might be a coin, or a weight, etc.. It's broken so getting a weight and size is not possible. Is there any type of image visable?
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 Posted 03/08/2012  2:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mutargim to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, echizento! There is no images or characters remained on the both sides of the item. It was beaten, surely, by stone, so from one side the piece of the soft brass was dented and cut off, and the other side of it just broke off from the rest of the coin.

However, I hope, may be some one has seen coins edged in this very style (the coins of Antiochus VI are made with the same idea but on the same way) -



And, may be some one saw such a coin as unbroken. Аnd not damaged. And could remember this extraordinary edgr.
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 Posted 03/08/2012  5:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, those little serrated Seleucid bronzes was what I first thought of when I saw the edge in your picture. But I'm afraid there isn't enough left of it to be sure one way or another. With no details visible on either side, I can't say if it was ever actually a coin or not. Without archaeological context, there's no way of knowing how old it is.
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 Posted 03/08/2012  5:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dougsmit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The shape of the teeth is much more straight than I've seen on coins as shown in the samples shown. I'd call it a tool fragment.
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 Posted 03/08/2012  6:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ancientcoinguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Could be a piece of an old broken gear. I don't think we will ever know, to be honest.
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 Posted 03/08/2012  7:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That Antiochus VI with the elephant is really nice!
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 Posted 03/09/2012  02:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mutargim to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, Sap! Of course, there is a context, and I know it well. But I didn't wanted the context affect experts views and suggestions. Because any epoque of coinage has its own aesthetics obviously connected with the minting technology used that time. So antique coins differ from medieval in Europa and Mediterranean at least. This piece looks not "very antique". But the idea of making a coin serrated and, in the same time, from brass was the antique one. This anti-trimming and gold-imitating aesthetiques was used mostly from Macedonia and Levant till the state of Himyar in South Arabia -
http://www.grifterrec.com/coins/ara..._5718_o2.jpg

But could it be something like a Portuguese coin of 15th century? Or an Asian coin of 7-16th centuries?
Of course not a piece of coin is worth but the information which it could disclose.
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 Posted 03/11/2012  9:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Apollo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Could be a piece of an old broken gear. I don't think we will ever know, to be honest.


Yes, I was gonna say it looked like a broken cogwheel.
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 Posted 03/12/2012  06:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Mutargim to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
http://files.turbosquid.com/Preview...29Larger.jpg

I an sorry, Apollo, it is not. The cogweel is manufactured in accordance with other principles.

http://images.crestock.com/150000-1...50881-xs.jpg
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