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 Posted 03/10/2012  9:55 pm Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add MUK to your friends list Get a Link to this Message

I have a (What I think to be) German 24k gold-plated silver coin with the hall marking of a crescent moon 80 P (925/1000)

On the Front There is an image of a man lighting a match as his family watch on with the words 'Das Sicherheits-Zundholz' (which means 'The Safety Match') and on the rear its says 'die vierziger Jahre in den Jahren des 19. Jahrhunderts in Schweden entwickelt das ungiftige rote Phosphor enthält Zündholz in der Reibfläche und ist nur an diesem entzundet'
(which means roughly 'the forties during the years of the 19th Century, Sweden developed the non-toxic red phosphorus match into the friction surface and is only at this entzundet')

It is First Edition number 172

I have researched it for hours and hours and cannot find any information on it at all...... Can someone enlighten me? And of its value maybe?

For Pictures......

http://www.flickr.co...photo6968929367


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 Posted 03/10/2012  10:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Apollo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome MUK!. The link doesn't seem to work for me. Could you post the pictures directly to the thread, thanks.

(Click ``Reply to Topic`` use the ``Free image optimizer`` to lower the file size and use ``upload image``.)
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 Posted 03/10/2012  10:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add MUK to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank You for looking at my post and advising me the link doesnt work :-)

I think you should now be able to see the coin....

I know the picture of the front of the coin looks silver but it is in fact the very same gold colour as you can see on the back

Many Thanks





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 Posted 03/10/2012  11:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Apollo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is sterling silver according to the writing on the side ``silber 925`` which is 92.5% pure silver. It must be, as the medal says, to commemorate or celebrate the invention of the red phosphorus match.

That match is the kind that you use today, before they would use white phosphorus matches which were highly toxic for the people making them in factories and were afflicted with many bone disorders.

It must be a privately made medal/commemorative. If you could give me a weight, I could give you a possible value.
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 Posted 03/10/2012  11:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add MUK to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That would explain why there is no history to be found.... it weighs 19grams :-)

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 Posted 03/10/2012  11:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Apollo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice medal! It's worth $20 in silver and I don't think it could be worth any more than that since it's privately made, sorry.

Thank you.
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 Posted 03/10/2012  11:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add MUK to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No thank you for your help! Iwill now stopsearching for my fortune in this coin :-)
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 Posted 03/10/2012  11:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You've not quite got the last phrase right; "und kann nur an dieser entzündet werden." translates to "and can be ignited only at this.".

As for your medal, I'm not sure. It's most likely German/Swiss in origin and presumably part of a series of medals. Since this medal is in German but commemorating a Swedish invention, it doesn't seem to be a nationalistic medal series like "Great inventions of Germany". Perhaps something more like "Great inventions of the Industrial Revolution", or perhaps even a medal from a match company commemorating the advances in match-making.

A closeup of the little shield device at the top of the reverse and/or the little "mintmark" at the bottom might tell us where it was made. The "mintmark" almost looks like the Franklin Mint "FM monogram", though I've never heard of the FM making German-language medals.
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 Posted 03/11/2012  04:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add MUK to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Brilliant - thank you :-)

Google Translation let me down ;-)
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