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Red LWC Grades?
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unfamiliar
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 Posted 03/11/2012  04:34 am Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add unfamiliar to your friends list Get a Link to this Message

Do you grade red LWC's differently, or do they follow the regular grade and then some collectors just put a premium on them because of the red?

Either way, would like your opinions on the following:

Coin 1:





Coin 2:



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And are the ones (like the first coin) with surface dirt on them worth cleaning in order to attempt to make them more visually appealing?
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These coins actually look red.

Most of the time when a coin is referred to as 'red' it is referring to the red, orange, gold like colour of lustre not like the coin pictured.
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@ unfamiliar . . here's an example of a red 55-S, just to make you familiar



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That is a nice penny! That is exactly what is meant by red unfamiliar.
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lol, I see.

You guys have the patience of a saint to put up with newbies such as myself.

Thank you. :)
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The deep red color you're seeing is due to heavy oxidation of the copper. We do not refer to these as "red", that is designation is reserved for mint red, mint state coins. We would simply call this toning.
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I'd call it red "paint", not "toning".

Check this out for pricing:
http://www.numismedia.com/fmv/price...icesgd.shtml or http://www.numismedia.com/fmv/price...ices61.shtml for higher grades
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