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 Posted 03/14/2012  04:17 am Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add spg1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message


he has listed a few coins, but someone (bidiot) has bought this one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ERROR-COIN-...t_500wt_1406

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 Posted 03/14/2012  04:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add erkle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
well he has to get the value of the other 2 rare pennies he wasted making this one ;)
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 Posted 03/14/2012  04:52 am  Show Profile Check trout1105's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 03/14/2012  04:58 am  Show Profile Check trout1105's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have reported this and I hope that it is pulled before the buyer gets stung
Obviously a hammer job with another penny on top of this one
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 Posted 03/14/2012  05:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mrcruise to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It takes some bidders the bitter taste of being ripped off before they learn
Bet he/she thought they were getting a real bargain
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 Posted 03/14/2012  06:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add spg1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

(trout love the whirlwind emoticon thingy...)
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 Posted 03/14/2012  06:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add War Nickel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I saw vice toothmarks on the rim of the obverse. It is fairly obvious what happened here, that this error is post mint damage ( PMD). I reported him also as an act of goodwill.
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 Posted 03/14/2012  06:39 am  Show Profile Check trout1105's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What really concerns me about these cretins is that they will put new collectors off the hobby with their dishonest and criminal behavior.
Once these new collectors get stung that is normally all that is needed to turn them of this great hobby and we will loose an up and coming numismatist, Just because there are a minority of ratbag sellers out there
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 Posted 03/14/2012  08:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add FNQ to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They must have quite a production line going....

Seems like they thought they hit the jackpot with this listing: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...270885305268

Their decimal listings seem to attract some particularly "interesting" prices.
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 Posted 03/14/2012  09:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add appleangel07 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Federal Police should be kicking in this scums front door in,i think online fraud squad would also be interested in his productions.
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 Posted 03/14/2012  1:20 pm  Show Profile Check kookoox10's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add kookoox10 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unbelievable, can't believe anyone would be naive enough to think this would be an error.
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 Posted 03/14/2012  6:25 pm  Show Profile Check markn's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add markn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
He just bought a roll of 1979 1c and 1981 20c. Want to bet me a dollar that a 1979 1c "error" and a 1981 20c "error" will appear shortly?
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 Posted 03/14/2012  6:31 pm  Show Profile Check trout1105's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
looks like he is set to give his vice a good workout
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 Posted 03/14/2012  7:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ozcoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Has anyone reported this guy anywhere other than eBay?
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 Posted 03/14/2012  7:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Do people honestly think the AFP or likewise are going to do anything about it. My money is on them not giving a crap about someone making bottle top impressions on demonetised coins when they have other things to contend with eg. those fake $1 coins from china. Dont get me wrong what they are doing is vlearly wrong, preying on unsuspecting people but in comparison its likely not to get any attention.
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 Posted 03/15/2012  02:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add spg1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

The difficulty in prosecuting this guy with any sort of statutory offence is that proving that he actually defaced/mutilated/changed etc the coins. It's in all probability that he did, but in a court the burden of proof is "beyond all reasonable doubt".

It doesn't fall under state jurisdiction, & would be referred to the AFP for investigation. They would only look at this guy if he was counterfeiting.

Having said that maybe a course of conduct ie his eBay history, might spark an investigation.

just an opinion of course.

Simon
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