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 Posted 03/21/2012  6:42 pm Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add backatit to your friends list Get a Link to this Message

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 Posted 03/21/2012  6:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Silver Gorilla to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
scratches my head here, I will be up all night long waiting for coppercoins to answer :)
But I will give it a try this could be a "CUD". It happened when a piece of the die that minted the front of the coin chipped away and fell off while the coins were being made. It is considered an error and is worth some premium value.
But for now still waiting for coppercoins :))
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 Posted 03/21/2012  6:54 pm  Show Profile Check oih82w8's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add oih82w8 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What does the whole obverse and reverse look like?

(second look) Something is funny about this "coin" look at the inside seam at the rim (there is a break, possibly indicating a "magicians coin".

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 Posted 03/21/2012  7:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add clary1265 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Grease filled die or PMD...

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 Posted 03/21/2012  7:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add CaptainFwiffo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's gotta be a grease plugged die. PMD would show scratches or gouges or exposed zinc, and I don't see any of that. I've never seen a greaser erase details so cleanly though, usually there is a faint shadow of the devices left. But I also see some evidence of debris in the die in other parts too (the flatness of the nose, for instance).
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 Posted 03/21/2012  8:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hermanwilliams to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
error coins don't usually get my attention...but this....
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 Posted 03/21/2012  8:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a puzzle.

Re: Magician's coins. I have two -- so I'm no expert, but they both have lines just inside of the rim. One of mine comes apart and one is double headed. Both are cut the same way and you can see the line inside of the rim. I think this is because it is easier to carefully grind down one side of the coin than to try and cut it in half.

How do the letters look on your coin? Are they worn? I'd really like to see the whole coin.

Nice find!
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 Posted 03/21/2012  8:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add coppernickeldaddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
More than likely an overpolished or grease-filled die. Never seen an example with the date so obliterated though. Looks like traces of the 1 in the date is there, but that's it. Usually overpolished or grease-filled dies don't have much of a value, but two example of 20th century US coinage, the 1937d 3 legged Buffalo nickel and 1922 "plain" Lincoln Cent, are two very notable exceptions.
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 Posted 03/21/2012  8:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add yotie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
greaser, I think I see an O
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 Posted 03/21/2012  8:51 pm  Show Profile Check rachums107's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add rachums107 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can we see a picture of both the front and back of the coin?
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 Posted 03/21/2012  9:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jayman931 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would guess its a nice greaser...
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 Posted 03/21/2012  9:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jasper62 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll agree with Jayman931. I wouldn't think the mint would over polish the entire date off. A nice chunk of grease. Picture of the entire reverse and obverse might help
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 Posted 03/21/2012  10:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In this case, there appears to be some remnants of where the date would have been,
but I have also seen coins that have also been photo - shopped.

I guess that is one way that an unscrupulous eBayer can guild the lily a little. As a result of this, it should not be surprising that some people have reported that coins they have received via eBay are less than what they were expecting.

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 Posted 03/21/2012  10:27 pm  Show Profile Check coop's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Struck through error (Grease). A nice one. But they do get stronger. The stronger the better, the more interest is shown.
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 Posted 03/21/2012  10:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The rim looks a bit odd in this shot. I'm not sure if this is an error or PMD based on this cropped photo alone.
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 Posted 03/21/2012  10:50 pm  Show Profile Check coop's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The rim has some small rim chips on it. note the planchet rolling lines in it. The surface is untouched. A grease filled error for sure.
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