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 Posted 03/29/2012  1:12 pm Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add larena to your friends list Get a Link to this Message

What do you make of this ?



It seems to be a mint error as there is no sharp edges...also if you look at the edge you can see the reeding which makes me think the edge would have been cut also if it was PMD

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03/29/2012 1:25 pm
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 Posted 03/29/2012  4:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Got a piccie of the Obverse?
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 Posted 03/29/2012  11:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm a bit undecided on this one. It could be a planchet flaw, less chance of a strike through, and possibly PMD.

I often come across coins that appear to have had a slice of metal removed, fairly similar to this and I've nearly always put it down to PMD.

Hang onto it, you might get a plausible reply from someone who recognizes exactly what's caused it.
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 Posted 03/29/2012  11:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ZiggyZ to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks to me like it was whacked with a hammer.
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 Posted 03/30/2012  05:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add larena to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it was wacked with a hammer, you would expect the edge to be flattened....and it isn't
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 Posted 03/30/2012  06:22 am  Show Profile Check trout1105's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think this is an error.
Notice the rim from 6 o'clock to 9 o'clock on the reverse.
the missing piece at 9 o'clock to 10 o'clock is probably PMD (sliced) but the rim looks odd
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 Posted 03/30/2012  07:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add OddCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know all that much about errors, but from what I do know, I think it's PMD.

The reason I say that is because the flattened part appears to be a bulge on the side of the coin, making the coin wider than it should be. In order for the coin to be struck that way, it would have to be struck out of collar.
If the coin was struck out of collar, the entire coin would be broadstruck, wouldn't it?

So I'm leaning towards PMD, for now...


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 Posted 03/30/2012  07:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add larena to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
here's some more pics....hope these are better




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 Posted 03/30/2012  07:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add larena to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you look at the design...this appears to be done before the design was printed as no design is missing
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 Posted 03/30/2012  08:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add deano to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
An interesting coin but I would call it PMD to be honest
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 Posted 03/30/2012  5:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I notice just above the area in question, there appear to be 2 x small indentations that may be teeth marks from a vise or similar.

larena, have a really close look around the entire rims on both sides and see if there's any evidence of any more of these marks. If there are more, it's a sign that the coin has been 'held' tightly so that the piece of metal can be removed. In one piccie, I can also see a groove in the area that may be marks left by some tool.

It might seem a bit bizarre I know, but hey some people have nothing better to occupy themselves with.
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 Posted 03/30/2012  5:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add airgem to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Like most of these errors it is just too hard to tell from photos. I'm leaning towards a genuine mint fault caused by some part of machinery or foreign matter. A lot goes on at the mint that we don't get to hear about because of secrecy. Anyone who has opened a few thousand mint rolls will tell you that these things occur, but because there is no clear explanation and half the population believe in the hammer theory and grinders and polishers they get tossed in the "too hard basket".
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 Posted 03/30/2012  5:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add erkle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
none of the design is missing as the impact mark is not on any of the design. and part of the feathering does look to have been flattened just a little. but then I did hear of a mint worker who lost his finger nail in a bunch of 10c planchetts maybe this is the coin it impacted on
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