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coppernickeldaddy
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Can't tell what happened to this. If it is PMD I'd like to know how it was done. Is it a major greaser or a die adjustment strike? Or neither? Any opinions appreciated; thanks.


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It could be some kind of weak strike or hard planchet, but it could have been done on a grinding wheel or something too. It's not underweight, is it?
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Looks like a genuine error. Either a weak strike or hard planchet
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Just checked the weight; 5.0 grams on the nose. Proper weight.
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Whne the rims are worn it usually means PMD..a weak strike would still have full rims as would a greaser.
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This is a weak (low-pressure) strike. The two proximate causes are inadequate ram pressure or insufficient die approximation (excessive minimum die distance). All evidence indicates that the vast majority of weak strikes in the marketplace are due to spontaneous equipment malfunction. As a result, the terms "die adjustment strike", "die trial", and "set-up piece" are invalid.
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Always good to be corrected by the best. Mike, if you return, could you tell me where I'm wrong about the rims ? Obviously I've been mislead somewhere along the line.
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 with Maineman that is what I believed too, in regard to the rim... Help us learn....what say ye Mr. Diamond?
Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. Douglas Adams
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A weak strike will show poor development (or no development) of the design rim. That's the case in this coin. The coin will preserve the beveled surface that connects the apex of the planchet's proto-rim to the edge of the planchet. I do believe that this is also present, although it's hard to tell from the photo. Nickel planchets often don't show much of a bevel, so this is not a critical or entirely reliable diagnostic.
You'll also notice that the peripheral letters hug the internal margin of the persistent proto-rim. That's typical of a weak strike. The coin does not expand to full diameter.
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Thats why you are my second favorite Mike Diamond in the world!  Cheers!
Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. Douglas Adams
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The first, I presume, is the Beastie Boy by that name.
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Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. Douglas Adams
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Great stuff and thanks for the lesson Mike..after hearing your explanation it is much more obvious on the coin. And now I'm off to add your words to my library. 
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Mike, I will add some pics of the rim this evening to help you in your determination. Thanks for the input!
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Not a bevel here, but a step. It still doesn't undermine my diagnosis, however. As I said, nickel planchets show little or no development of a bevel. It's much more noticeable on other denominations.
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