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Black dots/points on new silver never opened coin ?

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Adorus
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 Posted 06/20/2012  2:22 pm Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Adorus to your friends list Get a Link to this Message

Hello,

I was going over my collection a few days ago and found a new coin which was never taken out of the plastic with black points or marks ... I do not even know how to call it or what exactly it is :/ Oxidation, toning, patina ... ? Will be very thankful if you could tell me as it is the first new coin I see which such " thing"

Thank you :)







P.S. On the right side of the first image, it is the part of the Royal Canadian Mint logo which is seen by reflection.

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 Posted 06/20/2012  9:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Did you purchase this coin directly from the Royal Canadian Mint or from a dealer on the secondary market?

When you look at the coin closely, are the dark areas actually discolored or does it seem like a layer of silver has flaked off?

The marks are unusual for such a relatively new coin and I'm wondering if the piece was "messed with" before you came into possession of it.

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 Posted 06/20/2012  10:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Adorus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When I looked with a loop closely, it seems as if darkish blue-black ink was put on it. Doesn't seem as if a layer of silver has flaked off. The coin was bough as soon as it came out and was purchased at Canada-Post, which sells lots of Mint coins ... I do not think Canada Post could have possibly done something with the coin.
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 Posted 06/20/2012  10:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add shopaholic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have an off-topic question. Would .9999 silver ever rust or oxidate? I know sterling silver would, but not sure about .9999 (pure) silver. Thanks.
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 Posted 06/20/2012  10:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tocoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin doesn't look right. Like what commems said, it looks like a layer is flaking up.
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06/20/2012 10:24 pm
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 Posted 06/20/2012  11:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Adorus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree. It does seem really weird for a fairly new coin.
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 Posted 06/20/2012  11:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kuh_85 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Are these the highest points of the design and if so, are they touching or able to rub against the plastic case?
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 Posted 06/20/2012  11:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Adorus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No, they are not the highest points, and even if they are, they should not be touching the plastic casing. In the first picture, it is definitely not at the highest point.
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 Posted 07/04/2012  8:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ail to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i actually have a similar problem with one of my coins...i was wondering the same thing.
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 Posted 07/04/2012  9:20 pm  Show Profile Check Lithanial's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Lithanial to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My guess is that something contaminated it during packing. Dirty hands or contaminated capsule.
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 Posted 07/04/2012  9:33 pm  Show Profile Check trout1105's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I also have a coin with the same problem




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 Posted 07/04/2012  10:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Adorus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unfortunately no one has a concrete answer
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 Posted 07/05/2012  2:45 pm  Show Profile Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oxidation. To me, it looks like the coins have been stored in a high humidity environment. Over time, all silver coins will eventually spot, or tone, especially coins that contain other minerals, like copper. The only thing you can do is try to keep the humidity down where you store your coins.
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 Posted 07/05/2012  6:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I have an off-topic question. Would .9999 silver ever rust or oxidate? I know sterling silver would, but not sure about .9999 (pure) silver. Thanks.

All silver will tarnish, no matter how pure it is. Tarnish is caused by exposure to sulfur, rather than oxygen.
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 Posted 07/12/2012  7:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add loonar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
CP employees sometimes do open the air-tite coin capsule, at least that is what I saw yesterday. God knows whether their hands or gloves have been truly cleaned.
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 Posted 07/12/2012  8:13 pm  Show Profile Check Lithanial's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Lithanial to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
^I never thought of that. Any food residue left on their hands would easily do the trick.
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