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Ralph
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This is the second upgrade I mentioned in a previous post. Again, I know it's a VAM, but don't know which one. Anything special about it?
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Anything special about it?
Yes, but I'm not sure what that is yet. It's a strong 7/8TF coin, and looks to be PL which would make it pretty high up in the Condition Census regardless of what VAM it is. Do you have the ability to provide clear detail images? If so, I could sure use to see the reverse, the area I've circled in black: 
The best thing about a bicycle is that it uses no gasoline, therefore the chance of fiery death is greatly reduced.
First Catman, then Gary Burke and now Bigg Fredd - there's one heck of a coin club in Heaven.
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This is a shot in the dark but it looks like it may possibly be a VAM-39 but better pictures where SsuperDdave has circled would help. I do not see any of the marks on the Obverse that should be there for this VAM, but in some places it looks like they could be there. If you can't get better pictures can you go to VANWorld and see if they match the VAM-39 on their site http://www.vamworld.com/1878-P+VAM-39 |
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Ah the "bearded lady" VAM 41C. That awesome obverse clash gives it that name. So many coins, so little time ...
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Quote:Ah the "bearded lady" VAM 41C. That awesome obverse clash gives it that name. I had that thought, but the tailfeathers on this example are significantly stronger than mine, and it appears to lack the bow polishing. Remember, 41C is the latest die state of the series.   I am very interested in detail pics of this one.
The best thing about a bicycle is that it uses no gasoline, therefore the chance of fiery death is greatly reduced.
First Catman, then Gary Burke and now Bigg Fredd - there's one heck of a coin club in Heaven.
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SDave, Are you certain yours is a 41C? I don't have access to VamWorld but I remember the 41C has a "single dingle". Here's Ralph's coin with the "single dingle". I won't be able to confirm until tonight.  So many coins, so little time ...
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Ralph, Here's another close-up of your coin with an area circled. Check to see if it has a horizontal gouge. If it does then I believe we're looking at a 39A.  So many coins, so little time ...
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Are you certain yours is a 41C? Here's the obverse:  What else could it be?  I thought 39 at first, too, but in images like this I *should* be able to see the gouge in the cap. We'll await Ralph's return. Or, you will - I gotta go eat. 
The best thing about a bicycle is that it uses no gasoline, therefore the chance of fiery death is greatly reduced.
First Catman, then Gary Burke and now Bigg Fredd - there's one heck of a coin club in Heaven.
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Guys, I posted the seller's photos because the old printer/scanner that I've been using for the past eight years finally went belly up on me, and I don't have a new one yet. Ain't much on giving up on something just because it's outdated...:) - sorry I can't get you a close up, but thanks for checking it out for me.
Reckon I'd best take a cyberflight to VamWorld with coin in hand, and do some checking.
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Ralph, Just check for that die gouge in the cap and it's a lock for 39A, which also has a "single dingle" as I find out.  So many coins, so little time ...
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Okay guys, I went over to VAM World, and I feel about as dumb as I was before I went. Man! Let me tell you what I observe with glass in hand: Obverse - No die gouge in bonnet Reverse - 5 extra tail feathers showing - counting from the right - between the 2 and 3, between the 3 and 4, between the 4 and 5, between the 5 and 6 (more under the 5 than between the two) and a very slight showing under the 6th tail feather - there is a raised dot between the limb and the arrow feathers, and there's a die crack beginning at the you in UNITED, follows the top of the legend around to the second L in DOLLAR. And I would point out that it looks a whole lot better in hand than the photo shows - VAM or no VAM, I'm mighty happy to have it! Edited by Ralph
07/06/2012 9:35 pm
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OK, I realize this is a huge request, but I have to make it: Is there any way you could possibly allow me to do a photographic study of this one?
The best thing about a bicycle is that it uses no gasoline, therefore the chance of fiery death is greatly reduced.
First Catman, then Gary Burke and now Bigg Fredd - there's one heck of a coin club in Heaven.
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I still believe seated nut and myself are probably correct with the VAM-39 (VAM-39A) attribution. It seems to match up allot better with the photographs provided than the 41C does. Did you look at the VAM-39 or 39A (the only difference is the clashing which your coin does seem to have) on VAMWorld and see if it matches those attributes while you were there. You can just look and see if your coin has the same attributes as the pictures and do not need to take photographs since you have it in hand. I am pretty confident its not a 41C and the more I look at your coin it still looks like a VAM-39A. The tail feathers are all wrong for it to be a 41C in my opinion not to mention other things doesn't really seem to match up either
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I still believe seated nut and myself are probably correct with the VAM-39 (VAM-39A) attribution. I agree. Except it doesn't have the gouge in the bonnet. See why I'm so interested?
The best thing about a bicycle is that it uses no gasoline, therefore the chance of fiery death is greatly reduced.
First Catman, then Gary Burke and now Bigg Fredd - there's one heck of a coin club in Heaven.
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No problem Dave - just point me in the right direction, and it'll get done.
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Email forthcoming, Ralph. For the record, what is its' grade? I'm thinking 63PL or so.
The best thing about a bicycle is that it uses no gasoline, therefore the chance of fiery death is greatly reduced.
First Catman, then Gary Burke and now Bigg Fredd - there's one heck of a coin club in Heaven.
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Posted 07/06/2012 10:41 am
