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kenney
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 Posted 08/09/2012  2:46 pm Show Profile Check kenney's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add kenney to your friends list Get a Link to this Message

I'm putting together a world birthyear set for me, the wife and the 3 kids, so here my new vatican coins.

1979, 500 lira, 0.835 silver







and an 1982 1000 lira, .0835 silver also







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There is something quite sweet about assembling a set of coins for a birth year.
But, a question:
"An. IV" I would interpret as the forth year of his pontificate.
"An. I" would be the first year.
Could you explain how you determine the year by this traditional, Vatican coin method of dating coins?

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Oh. I just noticed the Roman numerals. The first coin appears to be 1982.
And if it is not too much trouble, what does the "P. M' mean?".
Is the second coin four years earlier?
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to be honest I looked in the Krause catalog and trusted them. but I guess the AN should be good cause according to Krause AN 1 is 1979 ANII is 1980 AN-IV is 1982. he became pope in 1978 so I guess that you are right.

just looked in the Krause an it said :Most Vatican coins indicate the regnal year of the pope preceded
by the word Anno (or an abbreviation), even if the anno domini date is omitted.
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P.M. = Pontifex maximus. if you look at other vatican coins pretty much all of them have Pont Max ,PM or Pontifex maximus
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Thanks, kennny, I do not need to be right. Just helpful.

"AN" stands for "annus" which means "year" in Latin.

"P.M. = Pontifex maximus."

Which I translate as "Great[est] Pontificate."

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Oh, COOL!
Just dug out a 1962 John 23 coin which has "Pont. Max." from 1962.
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Quote:
"P.M. = Pontifex maximus."

Which I translate as "Great[est] Pontificate."

A more literal translation from Latin is "high priest".

"Pontifex Maximus" was an office in the ancient pagan Roman religion, an office which the emperors assumed for themselves once the Imperial era began. Many Roman Imperial coins have "PM" somewhere in the imperial titles. The emperors continued to hold this title until well into the Christian era, when Theodosius I was persuaded to renounce it. The popes began using the title for themselves sometime after this.

Wikipedia.
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