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d23
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Ferret552
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 Posted 11/02/2009 04:03 am
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I think I'm missing something. Isn't it fine as long as it is advertised as such? I mean, if the seller tried to pass it off as real, I would be annoyed...
Wait a minute, is this because there's no "COPY" stamped on it?
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xshift
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oklacda
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Posted 11/02/2009 06:09 am
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The coin advertised is a "contemporary conterfeit", meaning it was made at the same type as the coin being copied, though maybe a little later. They are usually off-metal strikes and were made to imitate the value of the coin being copied (in this case 50 cents), although some were not well made. Many of these are collectible in their own right, especially tokens. This is very unlike the Chinese fakes now infused into our hobby, where the fakes are meant to deceive from a collector's standpoint. They (the current ones) aren't meant to imitate 50 cent pices (in the same type scenario), but rather rare dtaes/varieties worth thousands. The vendor of the Ebay coin has a solid background, feedback and reputation .. he's not out to scam anyone.
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oklacda
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Posted 11/02/2009 06:13 am
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In my above post, it should read that contemporary conuterfeits were made at the same TIME as the originals, not "type". Again, the Ebay coin is a far cry to from current Chinese tidal wave .. many of these (like the Ebay coin) are worth far more than an original, especially some early tokens.
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1945V
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Posted 11/02/2009 07:01 am
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I would recommend clicking on the "Report" link in the same listing and tell eBay that an illegal item was listed.
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d23
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Coins1371
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hhbkiddo
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scubu
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oklacda
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Posted 11/03/2009 04:37 am
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Boy, you guys are both tough and a little paranoid. If you (and Ebay) took the literal translation of counterfeit the way that you all are interpreting it, then Ebay would never be able to sell any Blacksmith tokens, about half the Tiffin Tokens, way over half of all the Bust and Harp Tokens, and a good number of Geo III and early GEO IV ones. There is a huge difference between modern Chinese fakes and old contemporary "counterfeit" coins.... it's ridiculas to apply modern counterfeiting law to items that were made over 100 or 150 years ago and wouldn't fool anyone as to its origin.
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scubu
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Posted 11/03/2009 07:48 am
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it's ridiculas to apply modern counterfeiting law to items that were made over 100 or 150 years ago and wouldn't fool anyone as to its origin.
No, what's ridiculous is insinuating rules should be applied differently to different people. The law is the law, rules are rules, illegal is illegal, counterfeit is counterfeit. Period, period, period, period.
I guess eBay should hire an entire team now to decide what's modern and what's contemporary? Or should they just take the word of the first email from some knucklehead know it all that complains (which could be a competitor)? Or should they just remove ALL counterfeits as they find them? I vote for the last one, any day of the week. The longer you keep them off the market, the better off the entire hobby is. That's a no brainer if you ask me.
Oh and by the way, if you've ever listed a coin on eBay, you'd know that there's a huge red warning right above the final submit button very clearly explaining that your not allowed to list counterfeits. So ignorance is a completely lame excuse. You'd have to be extremely lazy or blind, or just flat out think your above the law to blatantly list it like that. I vote for the latter.
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the seller here is a solid up front person with a good reputation and a honest mistake has been made which is now corrected as the item description has been changed.