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coinyoungsta
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Posted 11/07/2009  3:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add coinyoungsta to your friends list  Get a Link to this Message

how much would you say this coin costs, seller has it as AU, pcgs has it as environmental damage, what do you think







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Posted 11/07/2009  3:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hippiebrian to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Well, if pgcs says environmental damage, I sure wouldn't give au money for it, no matter what I may think.


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Posted 11/07/2009  6:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Podoprigora to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

whats environmental damage?

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Posted 11/07/2009  8:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add SuperDave to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


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whats environmental damage?


Most commonly, miscellaneous weathering caused by the coin having lain outdoors for a period of its' life. This particular coin shows far too much wear even in the small photos for consideration as AU Details; technically, without the damage, I'd be hard-pressed to even consider it EF.

This is hardly an uncommon issue, and the owner spent more than the coin is worth by having it slabbed.


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coinyoungsta
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Posted 11/07/2009  8:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add coinyoungsta to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

thanks guys I figured $60 for the coin was a lot but I wanted to see what yall thought

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Posted 11/08/2009  12:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add johnny54321 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


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Most commonly, miscellaneous weathering caused by the coin having lain outdoors for a period of its' life. This particular coin shows far too much wear even in the small photos for consideration as AU Details; technically, without the damage, I'd be hard-pressed to even consider it EF.


Really? I usually agree with you on grades, but I would have guessed this coin as having AU details. It is hard to see the details from the pics; however, the reverse eagle appears to have full wing details, a full tail, and breast detail; all of which would be muted in XF imho. With that said, it's still not a coin worth getting slabbed.


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Really? I usually agree with you on grades, but I would have guessed this coin as having AU details.


Here's my thinking, with the understanding that we're working from pretty small photos.

The shield details are pretty strong, indicative of a good strike. There's a "plateau" area down the middle of the obverse. I see that as wear, being pretty much flat to the dark edges. On the reverse, I see very little left of the breast feathers. Given what seems like a nice strike, for me this adds up to XF. Of course, with such small photos I'm just as likely to change my mind if I saw the coin in-hand.


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Posted 11/08/2009  4:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add johnny54321 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


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ere's my thinking, with the understanding that we're working from pretty small photos.

The shield details are pretty strong, indicative of a good strike. There's a "plateau" area down the middle of the obverse. I see that as wear, being pretty much flat to the dark edges. On the reverse, I see very little left of the breast feathers. Given what seems like a nice strike, for me this adds up to XF. Of course, with such small photos I'm just as likely to change my mind if I saw the coin in-hand.


Fair enough, thanks for the explanation. I see a lot of "roughness" on the breast that leads me to think there is a lot of detail there, but it may just be the photo. Although I don't see "luster" from these pics, the overall look of the coin leads me to think there may be a lot remaining, but I could be wrong. I agree that I would need to see it in hand to make a final decision as the pics may be misleading.

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Keep in mind, the minute the term "environmental damage" comes up, all considerations of luster go out the window. Even if the coin has only weathered in the outdoors - PCGS only chooses one code to give a Genuine slab and the coin could have been further cleaned after discovery - its' surfaces can no longer be trusted.


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