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1837 Lg Date SL Dime

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Ralph
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Posted 03/11/2010  9:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Ralph to your friends list  Get a Link to this Message

This one is giving me fits...haven't quite gotten to the point where I know just how to grade a coin with obvious damage. Do you judge the two sides, make a grade deduction for the problems, and assign it a net grade?
What grade would you assign it if it were a part of your collection? And, how did you decide to assign it that grade? Thanks.

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oimcoins
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Posted 03/11/2010  9:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oimcoins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

I don't agree with net-grading, as ANACS had done years ago.
I'd simply call this VF35/XF40 Details
LIBERTY is strong, nice gown details.
It's hard to grade the reverse of these coins, in my opinion.

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Posted 03/11/2010  11:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimR to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

I agree. Damage aside everything on this coin looks xf except the upper shield lines. VF30/XF 40 details sounds about right


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Posted 03/12/2010  06:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add busthalf to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

I'd call it VFF-30/EF-40 details

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Ralph
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Posted 03/12/2010  11:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ralph to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

My reasoning behind the net grade question is - I have a 1944 SL Dime in an ANACS slab thats graded: "Very Fine Details-Scratched-Net F12" so I assumed that the problems associated with this coin would probably reduce the overall grade as well.
Those of you who answered agree its in the Very Fine range. I agree, so thats what I'll inventory it as. Thanks much for your help.

Ralph

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Posted 03/12/2010  12:03 pm  Show Profile  Check Jaobler's eBay Listings   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

The coin is damaged but the overall appeal really isn't too bad. I agree with a VF-35 details grade. There is a big spread between values for a F-12 and a VF-20 grade on this date. I expect the value of this coin should be closer to the VF end of the spread.

I suspect a lot of collectors would find this coin to be acceptable for their set!

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Posted 03/13/2010  5:24 pm  Show Profile  Check ShadowCreator's eBay Listings   Bookmark this reply Add ShadowCreator to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

I would say that overall the detail is EF-40 based on the drapery and hair, I suspect the shield doesnt show up well in the photo especially with the damage. I'd say value around 50-55% of normal with the damage and scratches on liberty, because the reverse is nice.


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oimcoins
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Posted 03/14/2010  2:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oimcoins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

ANACS had stopped doing net grading, and rightfully so.
They are giving another opinion on an already opinionated matter. Who's to say how a scratch, cleaning, or whatever should knock it down? There is is no standard to it which is why a lot of people do not agree with the net grading.

None of those affect the grade/details of the coin. Your 1844 would still be a VF20 coin with a scratch, which is what they would say now if it were to be sent in.

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Posted 03/14/2010  8:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ralph to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Not to beat a dead horse, but...
I decided to post the seller's photos of the 1844 simce you brought it up. I assume the scratch is referring to those on the reverse.
Old slab, old grading standards...but I freed it from it's plastic prison, and it now resides in my Dansco Album with 85 other "sister" SL Dimes.

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