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 Posted 07/30/2006  10:01 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Irishraider to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I got my copy of Coin Grading and Counterfeit Detection from Overstock.com at a real reasonable price. You might check over there bh8006.

http://www.overstock.com/cgi-bin/d2...OD_ID=661618
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 Posted 07/30/2006  5:37 pm  Show Profile Check swamperbob's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is a nice site - I will bookmark it. Thanks.
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 Posted 08/18/2006  4:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mopar74 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Everyone! Great list of reference books. But if I were researching Canadian and Australian coins, any recommendations? Would I need two separate references, or both countries' coinage be contained in one reference under something like British Crown, etc.

Thanks,
Tim
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 Posted 09/28/2006  8:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TwoKopeiki to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fantastic!

I was looking for a list of literature on Spanish Colonials. Thank you, swamperbob!

~Roman
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 Posted 09/29/2006  04:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add thekidcollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey, I am looking for a book on Thalers and Denars and Hungarian Leopold I coins as that is what I am concentrating on in the darkside, aswell as Medieval British and German States. And Krausse 1600-1700 and 1700-1800.

Thanks!

TKC!
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 Posted 09/29/2006  08:58 am  Show Profile Check swamperbob's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thekidcollector - there is good news and bad news regarding your question. First the good news, the reference books do exist. But there is bad news too - they are not in the exhaustive detail that we expect in modern numismatic references, they are rather rare and are written in German. I will hunt for names, but you are talking some very expensive books. The Krause series are the best overviews of the series that are reasonably priced. I would check the overstock distributor's for last year's editions if I were you. But even new from Amazon they are less than bookstore price.
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 Posted 09/29/2006  09:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add thekidcollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, will check out Amazon, have seen a few on the CU but were in German.

Thanks again!

TKC!
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 Posted 09/29/2006  09:40 am  Show Profile Check swamperbob's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thekidcollector - If you have seen the German editions already - you have likely seen the same books that I was referring to. The other drawback to the books I have seen is that the illustrations of the coins are only line drawings. Older coin references have technological limitations when it comes to illustrations. Photographs are a relatively recent (and costly) innovation - etchings and steel plates or woodcuts were as good as they had. They were limited by the skill of the illustrator. Also these books were produced in an era when counterfeiting for numismatic deception had not yet reached the level of compitence seen in today's forgeries. Electrotypes produced high quality replicas but they were not made to decieve collectors but rather they substituted for rare items and were a legitimate part of the hobby.

The one exception that I am aware of with regard to the method of illustration of a pre-Civil War book was Riddell's book on counterfeits. Perhaps that is part of what drew me into the subject of forgery. Riddell was an innovative illustrator. He needed to portray exactly what the counterfeit coins looked like so he had electrotypes made of the coins. He produced a negative of each coin in type metal so they could set the book and get an accurate picture of the coin. Then he melted the original coins. The pictures are good enough to allow absolute identification of most examples. They even show die chips.

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While this image may not be up to present standards it is by far the best you see in the 1840s.
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 Posted 12/12/2006  07:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DaBoz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thekidcollector- Large Size Silver coins of the World 16th - 19th centuries, and European Crowns 1700-1800 by John S. Davenport are a couple worth looking for as references.

Reference books in my collection:

Volumes 1,2 and 3 British Historical Medals By L Brown
British Coronation Medals by Wollaston
Medallic Illustrations of The History of Great Britain and Ireland,by The British Museum

Large Size Silver coins of the World 16th - 19th centuries,
European Crowns 1700-1800 by John S. Davenport

United States Coins: an Illustrated History, by Q David Bowers
United States Coinage: The Garret Collection, by Q David Bowers

Counterfeit U.S. Coins by Taxay
Detecting Counterfeit Gold Coins by lonesome John.
ANA Certification Counterfeit Detection from The Numismatist

ANA Grading Standards for United States Coins

A Guide Book of Mexican Coins 1822 to date by T. V.Buttrey




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12/13/2006 11:23 am
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 Posted 04/15/2007  09:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"Have you anything on 18th century French coinage? (preferably in English?)
Ætheling"

For French ecus, George Sobin's 1974 book "The Silver Crown of France 1641-1973" is a must-have. It has tables of estimated rarity and valuations for every date and mint mark -- based on his careful analysis of price lists and auction catalogs over many years -- which are extremely useful. If you can find it, also buy the auction catalog of his collection, "The George Sobin Collection of French Ecus, March 7th & 8th, 1977" presented by Joseph Lepczyk. I was lucky enough to get a copy on eBay signed by Sobin with prices realized.
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 Posted 04/15/2007  8:58 pm  Show Profile Check swamperbob's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For French 18th century I have only the "Standard" work by Krause. I have an older French book on midieval French hammered coins (up to about 1600) but that one is rather difficult to use. I am not aware of a good English language book on general French coins.
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 Posted 04/15/2007  9:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TwoKopeiki to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bob, is there a specialized reference covering War of Independence period? I think Dan Canaparo is working on something, but I don't know when it will be out.

~Roman
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 Posted 04/15/2007  9:28 pm  Show Profile Check swamperbob's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Roman - no reference on the era yet. The 8Rs are covered fairly well in Calbetto but not every die is covered and only MOST of the styles.
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 Posted 04/15/2007  9:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TwoKopeiki to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks :) I'll just start documenting everything I learn from the coins I acquire and if noone puts any reference out in 5-10 years - I'll have to do it myself.
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 Posted 06/10/2007  5:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add endless to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
nice book
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