Islamic State Coin's Identification.seljuq?

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NumiFan New Member Poland 42 Posts	Posted 09/21/2025 04:18 am Hi I have this very nice looking silver coin from islamic state. I've investigated it and I'm guessing that it might be a Seljuk's of Rum coin. Maybe Arslan IV reign? He had 2 ruling periods and I see there are several mints included. Is anyone able to provide some additional data? I wonder how to approach to the dating of this coin. This part looks like a date but it looks like iranian digits rather than arabic... Report this Post to the Staff

Sap Moderator Australia 16470 Posts	Posted 09/21/2025 06:23 am It is indeed a coin from the Seljuqs of Rum, second reign of Qilij Arslan IV. The characters you have highlighted are not date-numerals, but actually the name of the mint-city, Lu'Lu'a (now known as Loulon, Turkey). The obverse (your bottom pic, which is the right way up) has the Sultan's titles, and surrounding it on four sides are the mint-name and date, with the date written out in full rather than using numerals. To the left is the word "zarb", which means "struck". At the bottom is the mint-name Lu'Lu'a (written upside-down). And on the right and top is the date: sixty and six hundred. AH 660 (AD 1262). Your top pic is upside-down. Compare your coin with this example on zeno.ru: https://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=20689 Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 171009 Posts	Posted 09/22/2025 09:18 am Nice example! Coin Collector Since 1978 My Avatar My Old Avatar My 7070 My Eisenhower Dollars CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
NumiFan New Member Poland 42 Posts	Posted 09/24/2025 10:11 am Thank You so much @Sap I'm surprised that numerals were not used for dating this coin. That's another piece of knowledge. I'll use this to check the other Rum coin but have to dig in for it first (still have a lot to check/investigate :) Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16470 Posts	Posted 09/24/2025 9:55 pm Arabic numerals did not come into common use on coins until around the 1300s. In the transition period (approx.1250-1350), they also used an abjad system for shorthanding numerals using the letters of the Arabic alphabet (very similar to the modern Hebrew numeral system) - meaning the date is written as standalone letters, hidden in amongst the rest of the letters of the legend - much harder to find and decipher. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
january1may Pillar of the Community Russian Federation 5105 Posts	Posted 09/28/2025 7:29 pm Very interesting coin! Feel free to post it in the Walking Back with Dated Coins thread - AFAICT we don't have 1262 there yet Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 171009 Posts	Posted 09/29/2025 08:58 am Quote: Feel free to post it in the Walking Back with Dated Coins thread - AFAICT we don't have 1262 there yet Coin Collector Since 1978 My Avatar My Old Avatar My 7070 My Eisenhower Dollars CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
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