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Welll then explain to me how a reverse die can bend that far to strike the deepest part of the obverse die. I'm asking for an explanation on a cent You would have ask a person much smarter than me. Short of a really hard clash, bang, extreme smack of the dies, that's all I got, Marve, not a physicist. I do have the coins in hand (or somewhere here  ) and will give them to you if you would like, they are yours, just PM me. Proof is in the puddin.
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I'd like to hear the explanation as well. I'd wager that coins showing clashing in such deep recesses of the die are reworked fantasy pieces. Oh my Lord, Ray, not you too, I thought you sharper than this. If you would like, I'll send one to you too, and no, I did not make them.... Cannot believe you people.
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Cannot believe you people. "You people"? Hmmm - Common sense dictates it can't happen but yet you have coins to prove maybe it could - but something extreme had to have happened like possibly a part of the die broke on the striking of the dies.
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hey, if will get me a nice deep die clashed coin, I'll join the nay sayers too  |
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However, the clash area on your dime examples are on the shallow area of the eye, Now, if I'm not mistaken that area is almost at the same level as the fields. (But I would have to get out my runout caliper to test that theory..)
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Look at the links, John.... I just get tired of people saying things that are not true.... It misleads the new folks that are trying to learn.
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It misleads the new folks that are trying to learn. I'm trying to learn how dies bend to strike down in voids but nobody can answer.
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the 1992-03 and the 1993-01 are great examples of a clash deep in the obverse die. (the others not as much)
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the 1992-03 and the 1993-01 are great examples of a clash deep in the obverse die. (the others not as much) And still, John, you do not take time to read the threads, just post and move on.... Quote:
but not common
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Look at the links, John I did Jon, I'm not disagreeing with you, I have seen them before, just your dime example was .well not a great one. but the 2 I id above are very good examples of it, And Marve I don't think that the die is bending. I think the cause could be on the initial hit of the 2 dies crating the impressions on the opposite die. The speed and force most likely caused an extra deep clash that was just enough to reach into the voids of the device elements.
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The speed and force most likely caused an extra deep clash that was just enough to reach into the voids of the device elements. But when the fields hit and stop that means some part of the die is still moving to reach the bottom of the void right? Seems to me there would have to be some "bending" involved to accomplish that, no? It's interesting and I've never found an answer to that yet so that is why I keep asking.
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Well there might be some 'flex', Metal is, after all a malleable material.
It only takes that one hit to impress the die design onto another, and once there is will be like it was 'part of the design'
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Seems to me there would have to be some "bending" involved to accomplish that, no? I would have to agree with you, I do not know how else it could happen. I have multiple examples and there are many out there that have been published, so it's not like it has not happened. You are still welcome to the ones I have found if you would like them and can study them.
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