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1831 Bust Half - Grade & Variety ?

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Grade AU-53 ?

Variety O-111 R.1 ? - need some help here
Rev H - all attributes match
Obv 7 - close but Overton lists short serifs @ top of 1's plus die cracks base of date, all stars on left & stars 8-10 (?) - only other use of Rev H is on O-109 with Obv 6 & is definitely not that. HELP please & thank you

1831-Bust-Half---Grade-&-Variety-?

1831-Bust-Half---Grade-&-Variety-?
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I am not good with these as far as varieties go but I agree with the AU-53 grade you have assigned to this coin
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Great bust half Jeff.
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Lower AU.
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Ok, I also like AU-53.

I agree, this attribution is bit tricky.

All the O-111s I've seen have a partial obliteration of the motto (E PLURIBUS UNUM) on the reverse. Yours does not. I also don't see the die cracks that are supposed to be under the date and up the left side to all left side stars (1-7) and then another die crack joining stars 8-10. And all the other examples I've seen of this attribution have much more elongated stars on the obverse than yours.

So...

I have to conclude you have a VERY early die state (EDS) of O-111 (Obverse 7, O-111 being the only use of this die in 1831) before the cracks propagated, before the die wore & the stars became much more elongated than yours and grease obliterated the motto (Reverse H).

Nice challenge! (Of course, I could be wrong, but I don't think so. I spent a LOT of time trying to puzzle this out!)
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02/21/2012 08:17 am
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Thanks Moe. I really appreciate your input. I just got back to attributing my CBH's today & this one was harder than Chinese arithmetic. 5 more left & I hope they go easier. You da man.
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AWww MAN...just got home from work....didnt get to play on this one... Very nice jeffrose!
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