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1972 2c Oddity

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Proko
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 Posted 02/27/2012  05:26 am Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Proko to your friends list Get a Link to this Message

I'd be interested to know what members think about this little oddity I picked up on eBay. Its a 1972 2c coin that was listed as having a "thin planchet". It certainly is thinner than a normal 2c coin, (see photo), but it also has a diameter that is smaller than a normal 2c coin. So maybe its been struck on a planchet that was originally destined for some other coin. Its composition appears to be the same as a regular 1c or 2c. But does anyone know of a coin this thin? Its strangely very well centred for an undersized planchet but certainly appears to have been struck with genuine dies, albeit weakly. See the piccies. Regular coin on the right for comparison.





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 Posted 02/27/2012  05:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LukeDARLING to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The circumference looks smaller too
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 Posted 02/27/2012  05:32 am  Show Profile Check enworb's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is very interesting. If it had been squashed it would have a greater diameter but this ha a smaller one. Maybe you could measure the diameter and compare with other world copper coins.
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 Posted 02/27/2012  05:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Proko to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, I thought at first it may have been a 1c planchet that got squashed but it weighs more than a 1c coin and its very uniformly round.
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 Posted 02/27/2012  05:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can't tell if the surface is rippled. If it is, then the coin's been partially dissolved in acid.

If it's smooth, how do weight and diameter compare to a one cent coin?
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 Posted 02/27/2012  05:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
yes: weight, please
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 Posted 02/27/2012  06:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add erkle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
bit of time on the belt sander then onto the buffer? I dont have a belt sander to test this theory lol
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 Posted 02/27/2012  06:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add erkle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
and the edge from 3 o'clock to 6 doesn't seem very round to my eyes
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 Posted 02/27/2012  06:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add FNQ to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The photos on the original listing are probably a bit clearer, and show that the coin appears to have an unusual coarse, speckly surface on both sides.
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 Posted 02/27/2012  07:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Seems to me it might have had an acid bath. Pictures will help a lot.
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 Posted 02/28/2012  04:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LukeDARLING to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Honey, I shrunk the coins.
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 Posted 02/29/2012  12:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ausjack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
not trying to be smart nancyc but as it has both an obverse and reverse I don't think it's had a bath but more along the lines of a one cent planchet in with the two's or it was a 2 that should have been rejected due to size etc
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 Posted 02/29/2012  12:34 am  Show Profile Check trout1105's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
definitely eaten away with either acid or alkaline
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 Posted 02/29/2012  12:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add b_j_w_79 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Being dipped in acid etc I don't think explains the difference between the two. The thickness of the plancet is too thin. If the difference was caused by acid surely the whole of the detail would be removed yet both sides still have a large amount showing. The plancet is half the thickness of the normal 2c coin, there would be no detail left to see with acid treatment etc!
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 Posted 02/29/2012  12:53 am  Show Profile Check enworb's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
with bjw there is no way acid could thin it out so much and leave details. If it were that thick because of acid there wouldn't be any detail on it what so ever. Acid could not have been the culprit.
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 Posted 02/29/2012  01:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add erkle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
the 1cent is already a thinner coin than the 2c and about 4mm smaller diameter. if it was hit and spread to the same size as the normal 2c by the die, I tend to think it would be much thinner.
also if a planchett smaller than the die did go in somehow I also tend to think it would have an even thickness rather than wedge shape.
im still a newb so could be wrong, but I have huge doubts about it being a 1c planchett.
just noticed something strange looking above the lizards head as well, poor atempt at a forgery?
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