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Chinese Fat Man Fake?

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vanyelmoon
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 Posted 03/03/2012  09:29 am Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add vanyelmoon to your friends list Get a Link to this Message

Hello,

I have been doing some research and I have come to the conclusion that my father had a "fat man" fake in his collection. The coin weighs 26.4 grams and it does not stick to a magnet. Before I send it in for melt value I wanted to see if the experts agree with me so I am posting some pics. My opinion is that it was cast but I want see what you all think. Thanks in advance for any opinions.




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 Posted 03/03/2012  10:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Apollo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The weak details could be from a cast, but I'm no expert. Wait for the others to come.
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 Posted 03/03/2012  10:12 am  Show Profile Check swamperbob's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unfortunately I suspect you are right. The final picture showing the edge - shows what appears to be split top reeds and evidence of edge grinding. That is typical of a copy that is edged in a ring die.

I could be wrong (it is only a picture) but you should check S.G before doing a more destructive acid test.
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 Posted 03/08/2012  07:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wait, 26.4g is actually within tolerance. IF you are going to sell it for scrap, let me know.
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 Posted 03/12/2012  03:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add coinsnpaper to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The finish on the surface looks like a cast, as well. The writing looks correct. The details, around the edges on reverse and obverse, look fake- very weak in places. Could it be a silver wash on lead, as a guess? Have you tried ringing it- putting it down on a wood surface so you can hear the ring of silver, or the clunk of base metal- This is an old test for counterfeits- counting houses and bankers hired people whose only task was to ring the money that was passing through the shop.
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