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1907-O Barber Quarter Star Error?

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American Eagle
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 Posted 03/06/2012  3:28 pm Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add American Eagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Message

Is this a star error on the reverse? Anyone have more information about this error?





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 Posted 03/06/2012  4:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Namachieli to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a Die Chip or a CUD most likely.

Hard to see with low res photos, so I could be wrong.
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 Posted 03/06/2012  4:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A die chip/cud in the shape of a star?
This is worth investigating.
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You have my attention, "American Eagle."
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 Posted 03/06/2012  4:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a link:

http://blog.davidlawrence.com/index...ysis-1907-o/

This was a BAD year, and your example may just be one of many.

But still worth investigating.
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 Posted 03/06/2012  5:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add American Eagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the link, I will check it.
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A die chip/cud in the shape of a star?


No, but in addition TO the star. :D
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 Posted 03/06/2012  7:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add American Eagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
matthewvincent

Looked through the link but could not find anything conclusive about the star. I found nothing that even comes close to describing why this happened or if it is an error or anything that comes close. I have nicknamed it the shooting star, ha ha.

I welcome more information about the shooting star.
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 Posted 03/07/2012  05:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add American Eagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Online I found a Barber Coin Collectors' Society (BCCS) http://www.barbercoins.org. I have looked at pictures of Barber Quarters on their site and I noticed that on my quarter not only is the star shooting to the "T" in States but the fold in the ribbon is pushed towarded the "D" in United.
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 Posted 03/07/2012  2:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
American Eagle,

Send your photos to:

Steve Hustad
shustad@comcast.net

He is the Variety Coordinator of the
Journal of the Barber Coin Collectors' Society.
Tell him that I told you to do so, and where and how I came to give his address to you.
Give him all of the information that you can.

We are in middle of a census survey among our members concerning the many different die varieties of the quarter series.
Your question is timely. It is either a "nothing" or a "something" and, as a Barber person I am quite interested in learning myself.

Let us know what he has to say. Good Luck!

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Thanks for the contact information. I e-mail my information and pictures to Steve yesterday evening.

This morning I searched eBay list of 1907-O Barber Quarters and found two-(2) that had the same star filled on the left from tip of star to tip of star. Found nothing that resembles my shooting star.

I noticed that for some of the grades listed (not third party) they want a lot for these coins and then shipping on top of high price. Must be something special about their coins.
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 Posted 03/09/2012  11:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just found one of the examples.
This eliminates post-mintage damage and narrows down the reason to either die damage or perhaps a die re-cut. The first is more likely.
I am happy to help you because you are approaching the problem as a true researcher.
Would you consider sending me a copy of your contact with Steve Hustad? I ask because I did not obtain permission to give you his address before doing so.

studentmatthewv@msn.com

It is I who would get into trouble and not you.

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 Posted 03/10/2012  9:49 pm  Show Profile Check westcoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks to me like a die that cracked then a piece broke off around the star, leaving a raised area where the die filled - a CUD. A very cool position for one though.
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 Posted 03/14/2012  2:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add American Eagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If in fact this is a die break/damage. Here is my thought's; the extra shape on the ribbon fold is a die break/damage and may have came first. I think the mystery is the "Shooting Star" keeping it star shape while enlarging on its journey to the "T". I am no coin or coin die expert but could the die break on impact pushing the broken piece outward maintaining but stretching the shape of the star? If this is possible; then did this coin getting struck on the next strike after the break/damage or is this the coin the die broke on?

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 Posted 03/17/2012  5:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TreasHunt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
westcoin:
Not a cud.
A cud must involve the rim.
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 Posted 03/27/2012  5:06 pm  Show Profile Check westcoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Not a cud. A cud must involve the rim.


In a truly technical sense yes you are correct, but I still call things like this cuds, even away from the rim as do many others. I suppose a more correct term would be a die crack/missing die detail?

http://coins.about.com/od/coinsglos..._defined.htm

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