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1916 D Mercury Dimes Are these 2 dimes REAL?

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 Posted 03/06/2012  6:39 pm Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Wil to your friends list Get a Link to this Message

Okay, I bought these two 1916 D Mercury dimes on eBay. Now I am wondering if they are genuine.
Please tell me your opinion!
Thank you very much!



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 Posted 03/06/2012  6:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Wil to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
By real, I mean genuine. Not fake 1916 D's.
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 Posted 03/06/2012  7:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Penny4Me to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Okay, 1916 D Mercury dimes....I REALLY think Coin #1 has a FAKE D = NOT genuine.
I am no expert, but I never seen a D on 1916 like shown above.
You should return Coin #1 and contact eBay/PAYPAL for $ back.
I would never spend more than $200 for a coin unless it was graded by NGC/PCGS/ANACS to prove it is genuine.
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 Posted 03/06/2012  7:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add JimR to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wil,

Buying uncertified 1916 "D" Mercury dimes is a dangerous thing to engage in. For the $895.00 that you have spent on these two coins you could get a certified G-4 1916-D Merc Dime.

Having said that your dimes may be legit. The bottom of the D ion coin 1 is bent and is a concern. I cannot see the bottom of the D in coin 2.

Attached is a photo of a certified 1916-D with mint mark that I used to own. You can use this photo to compare yours too. Others may be along later with more expertise than I and weigh in.

Bottom line though unless you are an expert in this coin, and you may be, I would strongly suggest buying only certified specimens as this is a highly counterfeited coin.



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 Posted 03/06/2012  7:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add CaptainFwiffo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They don't jump out at me as problematic, but I strongly recommend getting these authenticated. It's rare enough to make very sophisticated fakes worth making.

Here is a reference for the four mintmark positions.

I would like to see larger, closer images of the mintmarks. The most common fakes are genuine 1916 dimes with mintmarks added. The position first one, though it's hard to be sure, looks like a match for die #3 (an RPM), and seems to have notching on the top serif, which would also be correct. Edit: Ignore my comments about the mintmark and just try to avoid this coin raw as others have suggested.

The biggest fear I'd have of buying this coin raw, is that there's no logical reason for selling it raw. It's such a common counterfeit, that people will always suspect fakes. If it's genuine, why not pay a relatively small fee to have it authenticated and slabbed, and sell it much more easily and for more money?
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 Posted 03/06/2012  9:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sralloway to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't like number 1. I'm not an expert but compared to the 16 D my grandfather and I have had for 80 years, It doesn't look right. Just an amateur opinion.
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 Posted 03/07/2012  02:04 am  Show Profile Check macmercury's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Number 1 looks like tooled from an S mm to look like a D, sign of the tail of the S from a worn dime.

Number 2? Can't tell from the pictures, not clear enough.

Regardless buying raw 16-D dime on the bay is risky business, unless it is from a trusted dealer that would guaranteed refund of money if prove to be fake in the future. The prices paid is close enough or above a regular genuine AG3 16-D coin, return all if possible.
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 Posted 03/07/2012  02:34 am  Show Profile Check westcoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:

Number 1 looks like tooled from an S mm to look like a D, sign of the tail of the S from a worn dime.

Number 2? Can't tell from the pictures, not clear enough.





There are said to be more counterfeit 1916-D in existence than real ones, kind of like Woodstock attendees!
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 Posted 03/07/2012  11:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add upstate to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Send them in and let us know.
I believe #2 has a better chance, both may be good.
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 Posted 03/07/2012  5:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Wil to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you everybody. Great answers. I appreciate them.
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 Posted 03/08/2012  02:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chris beatie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Lol Westcoin is oldschool. Woodstock :P

Hehe I love it man :)
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 Posted 03/08/2012  04:13 am  Show Profile Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree that number 1 is very suspicious. The D at this level of preservation should resemble a crescent shaped "blob". The crescent being on the left hand side. That's why I think that number 2 may have a shot. They need to be sent in.
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 Posted 03/08/2012  12:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add briank to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
On coin one id does appear as if the bottom of the "d" has a cuve to it unlike Jim R dime. #2 may be a good one (just an opinion)
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