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Unexpected 1735 Halfpenny of George II

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 Posted 03/11/2012  6:48 pm Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add t360 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message

This morning I placed an low bid on this halfpenny and went off to a coin show. I figured I would be easily outbid. Just now checked the website and I won it!

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 Posted 03/11/2012  6:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is a beautiful coin!
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 Posted 03/11/2012  6:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Apollo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, she's purrrty. Do you mind me asking how much you paid?
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 Posted 03/11/2012  6:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add coppernickeldaddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
WOW! That is one sweet coin! I second the !
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 Posted 03/11/2012  7:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
70 euros + 10% buyers fee = 77 euros (US$100)
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 Posted 03/11/2012  7:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Apollo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Woah, that's cheap! Good job
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 Posted 03/11/2012  7:16 pm  Show Profile Check echizento's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Beautiful coin.
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 Posted 03/11/2012  9:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add coppernickeldaddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is probably a dumb question, as I know little about British coinage of this era, but does this coin show signs of being struck on an already struck coin? I see a lot of extra lettering under BRITTANIA and some other extra detail, especially on the reverse.
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 Posted 03/11/2012  10:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The copper of George 11 in this condition is very scarce indeed. I have a few, but none anywhere this grade.
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 Posted 03/11/2012  10:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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This is probably a dumb question, as I know little about British coinage of this era, but does this coin show signs of being struck on an already struck coin? I see a lot of extra lettering under BRITTANIA and some other extra detail, especially on the reverse.


On the contrary, that is an EXCELLENT question!

On the reverse, the incuse letters running under "BRITAN" are "GEORGIVS" running counterclockwise, and you can see an incuse "II" just under the shield.

I vertically flipped the image of the obverse to see how another coin might have caused an obverse brockage. Obverse brockages occur when the previously struck coin is not ejected and gets stuck to the lower die.

This planchet looks like it got a weak impression of the obverse design from an initial striking with a coin stuck in the lower die, then the stuck coin was ejected, and the planchet struck again normally. If someone has a different explanation, let us know.



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 Posted 03/11/2012  10:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add coppernickeldaddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No, I think you nailed it! That makes plenty of sense. Since the coin is in such fantastic condition the brockage is very clear. A thought: might it be severely clashed dies?
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 Posted 03/12/2012  05:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think the lettering would be raised (not incuse) if it were due to a die clash.
No that's not right. A die clash would look similar. It would have to be a very severe die clash to produce such a strong effect.
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 Posted 03/12/2012  4:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
t360: Was the 70 Euros what you bid, or was it the hammer price?
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 Posted 03/12/2012  5:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There was one other bidder at the opening bid of 60. I bid 70. The hammer price was 70.
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 Posted 03/18/2012  11:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Archraz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Amazing coin! very pretty!
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 Posted 03/21/2012  5:01 pm  Show Profile Check BillSnyder's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BillSnyder to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi -

I believe that this is a Die Clash. Sometimes they are quite strong, like the incuse lettering near the bottom of the obverse of this piece from Bolivia -




Super-nice halfpenny, by the way!


Bill
We, who are as good as you, swear to you who are no better than we, to accept you as our king and sovereign lord, providing you observe all our liberties and laws; but, if not, not.

http://www.spain-barcelona.com/barc.../history.htm
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03/21/2012 5:03 pm
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