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Apology to Hesgut and his 1921-S Buffalo Nickel

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 Posted 03/16/2012  11:42 pm Show Profile Check weerdsteev's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add weerdsteev to your friends list Get a Link to this Message

Right around the beginning of the year I got into a verbal battle with a CCF member named Hesgut. It got ugly and the Mods eventually took down the whole thread. Hesgut hasn't posted since January 5th and I'm not sure if that was by his choice or that of the Mods. To my way of looking at it, he provoked me unnecessarily and that's what started it. However, in the course of going back and forth I insinuated rather strongly that he was selling a counterfeit 1921-S Buffalo nickel on eBay. Which, as you might imagine, escalated our "debate" to an even more contentious level.

The reason I insinuated that his 1921-S was a counterfeit was because of the unusual placement of the "S" mint mark. It was way off-center, almost directly under the "C" in "Cents" rather than between "Five" and "Cents". I know there are instances of this in the Buffalo series, but I had never seen one on a 1921-S that was this far off center, and you would have to go a LONG way to find anyone who has handled more Buffalo nickels than me.

Well, tonight, I came across one just like Hesgut's and I can guarantee you it is NOT counterfeit.

So - wherever you are Hesgut, I apologize for insinuating your 21-S was a counterfeit. I was WRONG.

Hesgut's 1921-S reverse



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 Posted 03/17/2012  12:02 am  Show Profile Check rachums107's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add rachums107 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Takes humility to do that...good job.
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 Posted 03/17/2012  12:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add amida17 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
He is not locked...PM hime if you feel that strongly
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 Posted 03/17/2012  3:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add D0ubl3Eagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It takes some guts to admit a mistake.
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I'm such a newbie that I feel like what I have to learn is endless -- and apparently I'm right. With this hobby we never stop learning.

I agree with amida17 -- just copy what you wrote here and PM him. Then you'll know you've done your best.

Thanks for posting this. It was like a breath of fresh air after all the months of debates and name-calling on the news.
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 Posted 03/17/2012  6:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Apollo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a good thing to apologize after you've been proven wrong instead of just ignoring it or continuing to believe the proven fact.

Good for you
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 Posted 03/17/2012  6:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add yankee1227 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good job!

Its nice of you for apologizing!
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 Posted 03/17/2012  8:13 pm  Show Profile Check weerdsteev's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add weerdsteev to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I sent him an email and he responded. I think we're good now.
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 Posted 03/17/2012  9:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A standup move weerdsteev ...

BTW ... I've seen some of those meandering mintmarks on the 1921-S Buffs. My personal favorite is the 1916-D Buffalo with the D mintmark that's partially embedded in the C of CENTS.
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 Posted 03/17/2012  9:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add yankee1227 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is he allowed to post on here, or is he just not interested?
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 Posted 03/17/2012  9:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well said indeed.

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 Posted 03/17/2012  9:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very good of you to apologize.

I am pretty sure I have responded to post where I have given the wrong answer .. I guess that is all part of our learning process. I also think it does cause a lot of bad feelings. Makes people not want to read or respond to your post .. to avoid getting bad information or confrontation.

I have also seen many times where forum experts have posted their opinion that a coin is fake .. when it turns out authentic.

IMO .. everyone will get a fact wrong and make a wrong post .. how you handled this one .. should be a example for all of us.
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 Posted 03/18/2012  01:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Is he allowed to post on here, or is he just not interested?

He was not banned - banned members now show "On Vacation" as their forum title - but has not logged onto the forum since the incident in question.
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This is another reason I continue to come to this forum.
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