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errorone2012
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Help - what year did the plated cents first start - wasn't it 2000 ?
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sorry forgot the pictures - here is a 99 five cent struck on a plated cent planchet .   |
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1999 was the first year.
NIce coin.
Edited by darryldarryl
06/30/2012 7:15 pm
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Looking at it a little closer it almost looks like there was a nickle plating on it and someone may have attempted to remove it.
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Came back to look at this one more time.
There is no P under the bust!
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The p would not have to be on the obverse unless the coin was to be for one of the sets. Is it magnetic? Nice error!
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What's the diameter on your nickel, errorone? Someone will correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think that if your coin was struck on was a Canadian penny planchet that all the beads or any of the rim would be present like yours shows -- I think that our pennies are a fraction too small for even a full ring of 5 cent beads to show.
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Were they only available in sets in 99? or were they in general circulation also ? Sorry , I don't follow the whole modern cents very closely .
It is not magnetic .
In regards to the beads showing or not , it all depends on how the planchet gets struck up , if it is off to one side a bit then you might not get all the beads . Depends on the "flow" of the metal .
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1999 plated planchets were the first and were available only in sets. They would be magnetic. Perhaps it is a regular copper with zinc core blank.
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What's the diameter on your nickel, errorone? Someone will correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think that if your coin was struck on was a Canadian penny planchet that all the beads or any of the rim would be present like yours shows -- I think that our pennies are a fraction too small for even a full ring of 5 cent beads to show.
The metal might flow to fill the 5c collar. It would be extremely thin compared to a normal 5c or 1c. And the strike would look weak. If this was a 1999P 1c planchette that got into the normal 5c production line, then it would not have a P mark. I would have thought the 1999P stuff was strictly partitioned, specifically to stop them getting into the wild. So, what are the chances this is a back-door job? It would represent a very valuable error, I would think, considering the low mintage of 1999P.
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zonad
weren't the first plated ones copper/zinc - same as the US used - hence not magnetic ?
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I think the chances of this being a back door job is nil. I absolutely hate the term back door job . The majority of errors enter the market by 100 per cent legitimate means .
All errors are very valuable lol :-)
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Hi errorone
Actually, the 1999p pennies are magnetic, so I'd say that your nickel isn't minted on one of those planchets. Have you contacted the mint to see what they have to say about various other coins that were minted there at the time? Possibly a foreign coin got mixed into the batch. I realize that they can be pretty close-mouthed about such things -- there's also another thread running at the moment dealing with this type of thing -- but you never know, something good may come out of it.
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The 1999 strikes are Cu-Ni planchets. Are you a RCNA member? Perhaps check out a paper I published last month on the copper-rich errors from 1982 onwards... your coin could be an alloy mixing error.
"Research is what I am doing, when I don't know what I am doing" --Wernher von Braun
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I think the chances of this being a back door job is nil. I absolutely hate the term back door job . The majority of errors enter the market by 100 per cent legitimate means .
All errors are very valuable lol :-)
Sorry, if you're talking non-magnetic, then CPZ had been around since 1997. That would be legitimate. But, if a 1999p 1c CPS planchet (only ~20,000 1999p made) somehow got into a normal 5c production run, THAT would be very suspicious. And extremely valuable.
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It is definitely struck on a copper plated zinc planchet . I thought that it was simply on a cent planchet but wasn't sure if they started with the plated stuff in that year .
I was a long member of the rcna but let my membership lapse this year due to the ways things are going with them . It is not an alloy mixed error .
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Posted 06/30/2012 6:35 pm
