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1864 2 Cent For Grading

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What grade would you all give this 2 Cent coin?

Thanks for looking!




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 Posted 05/18/2013  1:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpbone to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
EF obverse. VF reverse with a weak strike. Details, cleaned.
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Gut reaction:

Awesome small motto there! I am in the VF (possible details) range.

Really nice one - I am jealous!
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 Posted 05/18/2013  3:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think this is just an all around weak strike, AU55
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Nice color! VF with weak strike reverse.
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That's at least XF IMO with a weak strike.
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I agree with the majority so far, VF25/30 recolored or questionable color, and cleaned. Still a very nice small motto variety, and quite collectable.
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oooooooh...small motto...nice
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When I first saw it, I thought AU-50. EF-45 would be the lowest in my opinion.
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Since there is such a huge discrepancy between third party graders on these. The answer is it depends on actual grade or market Grade.

My personal opinion if a solid VF30 the weakness on the rev while not common on this particular variety is still fairly well documented. Like westcoin I am concerned about the colour and I think I see some evidence of mechanical cleaning on the obv. A details grade is pretty much all you could expect from a TPG.
ANAC VF30 cleaned
NGC at least VF 35 details as they always bump small motto's a few points
PCGS it depends on the day but Most likely VF30 details with a shot at VF35.

I would like to see close ups around the date if that's possible. The mark through GOD is that a die crack or just a scratch?
the arrows are just too flat. the veins are not pronounced enough and there would appear to be slight blending in the horizontal shield lines all of which prevent the coin from grading any higher in my opinion. would I like to add it to my collection? Yes in a heart beat...
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EF details, cleaned
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Quote:
I would like to see close ups around the date if that's possible. The mark through GOD is that a die crack or just a scratch?



Ask, and ye shall receive!! Pictures of the date up close and the GOD. (And the grade revealed!!)


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Nice job (as usual for the very smart CCF members!!) guessing the grade and the cleaning, everyone.
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Thanks the evidence of the cleaning becomes very apparent at that magnification. Thanks for the close ups.
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 Posted 05/20/2013  10:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinsKelly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice one - I would not kick 'er out of my collection
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