ID HELPING

#1 doesn't show a normal lion; it's got wings. It's either a griffin, or a sphinx, both winged lion-like beasts. The Griffin had a head of an eagle, the sphinx a human head. Unfortunately, this coin is too badly corroded for me to spot the difference.

Griffins were featured on the archaic coins of Abdera, in Thrace, and on the Greek island-state of Teos. The Sphinx is quite distinctively from Chios.

#2: the bulls head was common to many city-states throughout the ancient world. It's hard to know where to start looking.

I have to say, the bubbly, porous appearance of both these coins worries me. They've either been cleaned very harshly, or they're cast fakes.

It certainly looks like a Persian gold daric - I assume it's gold-coloured, and not just some kind of strange lighting? The Persin gold daric and silver siglos had the same design, but different weights - a daric ought to weigh between 8.1 and 8.5 grams.

Is it genuine? I can't tell. The spiky crown is different to the more knobbly crowns on most of the examples I've seen (and I've never actually seen one in real life), but I don't know if that means anything. Even doing a gold test wouldn't necessarily prove anything - if it's genuine, it's going to be worth much more than it's gold content, so it's worth a counterfeiters while to use real gold.

hi all
i found Second coin eventually. it is a Mysia Kyzikos (BC 410-400) Hemiobol.
same one here