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 Posted 02/06/2009  2:56 pm Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add wif99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message

I have A Rebel XSI and want to get a macro lense for coin Photos,
but can not make a decision between the EF-S 60mm f/2.8 Macro USM and
the EF 100mm f/2.8 Macro USM. also another Question Do I Need a Hood? What is the purpose of a hood?
I have a Copy Stand. Thks

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 Posted 02/06/2009  4:25 pm  Show Profile Check SsuperDdave's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a question that's right up my alley.

OK, here's the scoop. Both lenses are incomprehensibly sharp; unless you already own "L" glass, you will be astonished by just how sharp these lenses can be. The major advantage of the 100mm is relief - you'll be able to position the lens farther from the coin for a given size image, allowing more leeway with lighting. This is also an advantage with outdoor macro shooting - bugs get nervous when you get too close. The advantages of the 60mm are price and portraiture. The 60mm is almost $100 less, and is a much better lens for portrait photography because the 100mm's standoff for a proper frame will leave you across the room from the subject.

The 60mm will not fit any but EF-S-compatible cropped-sensor cameras. If you plan an upgrade to a fullframe camera in the future, the 60mm will not make the trip. I have not shot with the 60mm, but experienced shooters universally approve its' quality and some consider it even sharper than the 100mm (I dunno how that's possible ). Kurt (Moderator) shoots with the Nikon equivalent of this setup, a dSLR with a 60mm lens, and he achieves excellent results.

For my money? The 100mm wins, hands-down. I like the extra distance from the subject, and I especially like being able to shoot sharp images that are way too big for my 1680x1050 monitor. I've owned one, and sometime next week you will see pics here from the exact camera combo you're considering, as I have an XSi and the 100mm Macro is enroute as we speak.

The lens hood is not for use indoors. It's purpose is to eliminate glare and lens flare from sunlight; highly recommended with Canon macro lenses since the front glass is right at the end of the barrel and susceptible to glare.

Canon Rebel XT/100mm Macro:

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 Posted 02/06/2009  4:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wif99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thks for the info. I have ordered the 100
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 Posted 02/06/2009  4:55 pm  Show Profile Check SsuperDdave's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You won't regret it. Most consider the 100mm to be the best non-L lens Canon makes, and better than may of the L's.
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 Posted 02/06/2009  6:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bomndk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I know it's a little late but I use the 60mm but the 100mm is definitely also a good lens.
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 Posted 02/07/2009  02:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mikep to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You won't be disappointed. The 100mm f2.8 is an awesome lens. Keep in mind the Rebex XSI is not a full frame sensor camera, so the 100mm lens would actually be 160mm while using that camera.

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 Posted 02/07/2009  03:50 am  Show Profile Check xshift's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add xshift to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I also have the 60mm - just got it for Christmas and am still playing around with the new setup. I'd rather be able to be slightly closer to the subject.. the distance necessary for the 100mm was the deciding factor for me (yes.. I got to pick out my own present ). It focuses quick, and being used to the lens that came with the camera I was really amazed at how close I could get without being right on top of the picture subject. It's a lot of fun
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 Posted 02/15/2009  9:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add daveyn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I also got the Rebel XSi for Christmas, will be buying the 100mm macro also. I am trying to get the software setup in my laptop to do the remote live view shots, not sure how the hand held macro shots would turn out. I plan to mount in a stand and display the shot on the laptop for adjustments, how is everyone else shooting their macro shots?




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 Posted 02/16/2009  02:30 am  Show Profile Check SsuperDdave's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dave, I shoot all my coin shots using DSLR Remote Pro, with the camera in a copystand and tethered to my computer. Hand-holding a coin macro is iffy because of the extremely narrow depth-of-field - this is giving me fits shooting outside for the same reason.

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 Posted 02/16/2009  07:01 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add daveyn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello Dave,
I'm not sure yet about the software that came with the camera. Remote pro is something you had to buy separately correct, or did it come with your camera package. I was told the software that came with my XSi will do the remote laptop stuff I'm wanting to do.



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 Posted 02/16/2009  12:55 pm  Show Profile Check SsuperDdave's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dave, I'd originally bought ($99) DSLR Remote Pro because the version of Canon software which came with my 350D (Rebel XT) was so buggy as to be unusable in Windows XP. I was never able to make it install and work correctly.

For this thread, I installed the new software which came with the XSi. It installed easily, I hooked up the camera and was remote shooting immediately. I'm pretty impressed with it. All the controllability you'd need is in there, and my only (minor) gripe is that it wants you to use the other Canon utilities to play with the resulting pics.

I think you're going to enjoy this.
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 Posted 02/16/2009  1:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice shot and coin--great die cracks!
Obviously Canon and Nikon have equally capable macro lenses.
I think a 100mm macro is a better choice for coins, as I often have to work with lighting to avoid cast shadows.
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 Posted 02/21/2009  2:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add daveyn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was just wondering if there would be any lighting advantage to having a stand that would allow you to shoot your shots straight across instead of having the camera pointed straight down. Most tripod and stand setups that I've seen are set to shoot straight down. I have a sheet metal and weld shop at my disposal, I was thinking of making a stand that would allow the camera to be setup much like being hand held. I thought you might have a few more lighting options that way, just thought I'd ask for a few opinions.


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 Posted 02/21/2009  4:11 pm  Show Profile Check SsuperDdave's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I thought you might have a few more lighting options that way, just thought I'd ask for a few opinions.


Dave, the extra lighting options are negated by the very shallow depth-of-field in macro photography. Gravity would make it very difficult to set a coin directly vertical, and therefore parallel, to a camera set up horizontally.

With my setup, I can only allow the coin to get out of parallel by one or two degrees before the shallow depth-of-field leaves part of the coin out of focus.
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 Posted 02/21/2009  4:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add daveyn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the quick reply SuperDave, I guess that answered my question. It looks like the 100mm lens is just what I need for my Snow varieties, I now have to decide where to buy it. The local camera shop wants $550 for it, but I've seen it on line at $430 to $490. I'm not too sure of the online shops, any suggestions?




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 Posted 02/21/2009  6:45 pm  Show Profile Check SsuperDdave's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I'm not too sure of the online shops, any suggestions?


I generally start with Amazon or Newegg for virtually everything I buy online. Photography vendors I have no problem recommending:

B&H (I got my 100mm used from them for $399)
Cameta
Adorama
17th St. Photo
KEH (also has used lenses)

I've done business with all of these. For future reference:

http://www.resellerratings.com/

Huge online database of customer experiences with online sellers - the gold standard for such information. Be seriously leery of a vendor who doesn't rate 8.5 or better from Resellerratings.
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