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Ngdawa
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Posted 03/14/2010  08:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Ngdawa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Message

Hey!
I got some coins that I'm a little unsure of the origins.

PIC 1:

The eagle looks like an Austrian two headed eagle to me.

On one side it says: "LOD.ILL.REX A.A.1870 HVNGAR.BOHEM.GAL". Where there should be a shiled it says '20'.
The other side says: "FRANC.IOS I.D.G.AVSTRIAE IMPERATOR"

PIC 2:

A similair eagle as in PIC 1, but with a shield. The date is 1899, no text at all.

PIC 3:

The same eagle as in PIC 2. The text says: "LOD.ILL.REX A.A.1882 HVNGAR.BOHEM.GAL. 1 FL.
The other side says: "FRANC.IOS.I.D.G.AVSTRIAE IMPERATOR"

PIC 4:

Below the 2 is the initials K.B
The other side says: "MAGYAR KIRÁLYI VÁLTÓPÉNZ" and the year is 1894.

PIC 5:

The text says: "KRÓLESTWO POLSKIE" It's a 5 Fenigów and it's dated 1917.
The other side has a picture of an eagle with spread wings and a crown on its head and a corwn above. Two feet with three claws. I Think it might be stars around it and the initials F.E (unsure)

Considering to the eagle PIC 1, 2, 3 might be from the same country. And since 'Hvngar' is 'Hungary' and 'Avstriae' is 'Austria' is might be from eaither of these countries, or if they are from Austria/Hungary.

I know that PIC 4 is from Hungary (Magyar = Hungary), but that's all I know about it.

PIC 5 is clearely Polish (Polska = Poland, Polskie = Polish) 5 Fenigów is the same as the German Pfennig. But some stories about these coins would be very appreciated!

Thanks!


Edited by Ngdawa - 03/14/2010 08:25 am
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Ngdawa
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Posted 03/14/2010  09:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ngdawa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

I just realized that it might seem like I know all about these coins, but it's all guesses.
The only one I'm almost sure of is that PIC 3 is a Austro/Hungaran Florin, but I don't know the other currencies (Except for the Polish Fenigów, but is that from the Polish Mark (Polska Marka??)

All help and guesses, suggestions area appreciated! :)

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DL20K
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Posted 03/14/2010  09:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DL20K to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

#2 is a pre-war Austrian 2 heller. During the same period in Hungary, 2 filler coins (#4) were minted.

#3 is indeed an Austro-Hungarian 1 florin, coins of this size in Hungary at that time were denominated in forints.

#5 is indeed Polish, however coins of this series were minted during 1917-18, that is before Poland gained independence (11/11/1918). The letters below the eagle are F F and are a mintmark of the Stuttgart mint (just like on German coins). The currency wasn't the same as in Germany, this coin is a 0.05 Polish mark (mkp, marka polska), not a 0.05 of the German mark.


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Edited by DL20K - 03/14/2010 09:35 am
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Ngdawa
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Posted 03/14/2010  09:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ngdawa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

About the Polish coin, I were more refering to the word, Fenigów = Pfennig = Cents.
But Thank you very much for clearing up some question marks

Do you have any ideas what #1? It's the same guy as #3, but 10 years before. But that's probably 0.20 Austro-Hungarian Florin then right?

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DL20K
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Posted 03/14/2010  10:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DL20K to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Yes, it's also from the Austro-Hungarian Empire, it's 20 Kreuzer, that's 1/3 of a florin.


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Ngdawa
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Posted 03/14/2010  10:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ngdawa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

OK, thanks alot mate!

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chrisild
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Posted 03/15/2010  09:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrisild to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Right, the terms "marka" and "fenig" are references to the mark of the German Empire. And while the two marks were indeed different, they did have the same value: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_marka

The Hungarian 2 fillér coin was minted in Kremnica (Slovakia) which back then was part of the Austrian-Hungarian Empire. The Hungarian version of the city name is Körmöcbánya - guess that explains the "KB" ...

Christian

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Ngdawa
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Posted 03/15/2010  12:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ngdawa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Yeah, that explains alot, great background..
Thank you very much Christian!

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