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Presidential Dollars/Dansco - to collect both mints or not

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steve199
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Posted 03/16/2010  3:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add steve199 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Message

I'm trying to decide if I care to collect both mint marks for my uncirculated Presidential Dollars. Once they are inside a Dansco, the mint mark is not even visible.

Here's the available Dansco's:

7184 P&D Mints (2007-2015)
7186 Date Set (2007-2015)
8184 With Proofs (2007-2011)
8185 With Proofs (2012-2016)

Does anyone know for sure if the 8184/8185 has 3 slots per President? What I'd really like is a Dansco with 2 per president: one proof and one non-proof coin. So it'd be like a 7186 with proofs.

I plan on waiting to buy an album until there is more clarity on how the coins for the recent (living) Presidents will play out.

Thanks for reading.
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I have the same dilemma and have still not bought an album for the Presidential Dollars. I also want to collect the proofs, but do not know if collecting the business strikes by mint would be necessary. I suppose "just knowing" that I have both mints would be satisfying, even if I could not visually confirm that I had both once they are in the album. I have also thought about collecting just the proofs, since I have more of those than business strikes already.
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Collecting a set of rolls would have the same problem...since the String & Son bank rolls don't identify which mint mark is inside the roll.
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Since I do not collect rolls, I won't have that problem!

Thanks to your post, I am starting to get that "crack the proof set" fever again. I have been wondering if the series will come to its end before I decide which album to get.

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I have 2 sets in the 8184. They have 3 slots per president and 1 year per page. Each album page is preceded by a page with all 4 presidents pictures for that year on one side and facts for each on the other. Only Dansco I've ever seen doing that. True you take the mint mark on faith.

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I've just been putting the BU's (D mint only) into folders and an album for now. I plan to eventually have a sharp looking Proof album of these in Dansco....but probably not a P & D inclusive one.
I do have, and will continue to get, the P & D coins as well......but they're in OGP complete Sets, and I'm not sure that I'll want to "set those free" and break up the Uncirculated Sets since 2007 to rob the Prez. coins from them to do it.
But I do buy an individual Presidential Dollar Proof Set each year to secure my plan of having all of them in a nice Dansco Proof album someday when (or if) this is all over.

The "D" mint only (one holer album/folders) that I keep up with, are really kind of just for fun !

But yeah.....we've all got plenty of time to decide "how" exactly or even "if" we want to collect these ! (many do not have any interest in them)
Coin collecting isn't always just about the money !

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I have been wondering if the series will come to its end before I decide which album to get.


The end of the series should be known by the end of 2014 or early 2015, taking the 2-year rule into account. So you have a little time left!

I'm of the opinion that, as the law is written, even if Carter does not die by mid-2014, Reagan will have his face on a coin in 2016. But others believe that Carter has to die first in order for Reagan to be honored.
Edited by steve199 - 03/16/2010 5:20 pm
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I agree with your opinion, but I have said before that I feel that the law is ambiguous; it can be argued either way.

With that in mind, I am almost certain that legislation will be issued to remove the ambiguity if there is any doubt when the time comes.
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Steve199
Funny you started this thread, I just got my Dansco 7184 in the mail yesterday. I choose the 7184 because it was one book, where the set with proofs was two books. I will have all the proofs with the sets I order each year but not sure if I will break them open yet.

I placed what coins I had loose in the album for right now, but in my mind I might try to put a burnish finish and a business strike in either the P and D holes ... but not really sure yet.

I like how this book is set up, it has 2 years per page, 16 coins. The insert has portraits of the presidents on one side with history facts about them on the flip side of that insert.

My album ends with George W.
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More nice Dansco photos from GoldRush58!

I do not think I have ever noticed this before, but I find it interesting that they actually have the holes for Bush 41, Clinton, and Bush 43.
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I hadn't seen that thread, and for the first time I understand where Conder is coming from. My interpretation would say that if Carter is skipped (because he is still alive in mid-2014), then Carter may not be eligible to appear on the coin, even if he dies in time to otherwise be eligible under the program.

But I would also say the law would most likely be renewed/amended to put Carter on a coin in that case.
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Thanks for the info and pics, GoldRush.
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Jbuck
Thank for the link to the old thread. Very interesting information.

I guess Dansco will make out selling update pages when this series is over.
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I am sure they will.

I also just noticed that there are no issue dates under the Bush and Clinton holes. What is the last dated hole in that album?
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What is the last dated hole in that album?


Good question! Reagan would be 2016 no matter what. But is there a date on there for Carter? That would be bad karma, for the lack of a better word.
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All from Washington to Bush 43 have the years they were President

Last hole with a date is

Nixon 2016 P and D
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