Siam Gambling Token (porcelain)

Hey Thanks.
Thats the one, obverse (a lot cleaner than mine)
Diff. reverse character but ?
Wonder what mine is ?

Cleaning coins devalues them; is the same true for tokens? If so, I would not recommend cleaning this token.

Thanks for the info on the reverse.
Been a while since I posted this.
I still have it. Pretty cool I thought.
I just thought that the rev. on mine was different
than the one shown as it has two characters and not just one.

Some more Siamese porcelain tokens can be seen here...

http://www.vivacoins.com/images/sia...n1/index.htm
http://www.vivacoins.com/images/sia...n2/index.htm
http://www.vivacoins.com/images/sia...n3/index.htm

In collection 1 you can see the very same token (front site) as in the post of Indian1. The token was before in same "dirty/muddy" condition like his one. The token was just cleaned a little bit with water and ordinary hand sop and still has his original "patina". If you zoom in you still see some mud/dirt. Haven not done a good (100%) cleaning job....

Chris

There is only one Chinese character on the reverse side of your token.



Gary

Apparently I'm not doing a very good job of communicating so let me try again.

The obverses of the two tokens are the same.

The reverses, however, are different.

Both reverses have only one Chinese character. Your token only has one Chinese character. Maybe it looks like there are two characters to you but I assure you that it is all one character.

The reverse on your token is qian (錢) which means "coin" or "money".

The reverse of the other token is fang (æ–¹) which means "square", "direction", etc.

This is the text that accompanied the other token:


This description is correct for your token but is not correct for the other token.

This text is not correct for the other token because the character on the reverse of the other token is not "qian (coin)". The character on the reverse of the other token is fang (æ–¹).

Someone apparently copied the text from the British Museum website and added their own images. Unfortunately, they did not realize that the reverse side of their token was not the same as the reverse of the token on the British Museum website.

I apologize for not doing a better job of explaining this in my earlier post but, hopefully, it is clearer now.

Gary

Hi Gary,

you are 100% correct... and here the complete set is one picture



I hope it's not to too confusing... the next smaller nomination in the set (after qian and fang) is "pai" (the one on the right site)

Chris