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Sidekick-CA
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 Posted 02/04/2011  6:25 pm Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Sidekick-CA to your friends list Get a Link to this Message

I'm fairly happy with this pic but it has a tad too much gold and a tad too much blue. Overall,it's a pretty fair representation of the coin but still the colors are off. The telling factor to me is the background. It should be snow white but appears gray. I'm using a JVC GC-QX3 3.3MP camera with manual WB against a white piece of paper. I'm getting fantastic macro pix using the same WB technique with no discoloration or loss of focus. The 2nd pic is an example. Any thoughts, suggestions? Thanks...

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 Posted 02/05/2011  12:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add flashinm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think the gray is just due to the image being under exposed, although the white balance is off a little too. What kind of lights are you using? I've noticed with LEDs that the white balance will change a bit depending on how close the lights are to the coin. Here's a quick edit. I just increase the exposure and contrast and reduced the saturation (although getting a correct white balance or shooting RAW would be preferred).

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 Posted 02/05/2011  12:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add flashinm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also, the white balance looks different on each side of the image. Was the light on the right perhaps farther away from the coin?
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 Posted 02/05/2011  12:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Newbismatic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
IMO it looks like a levels adjustment is all you need... set the "white" background to the white value in your image and voila!
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 Posted 02/05/2011  12:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Newbismatic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is my quick adjustment... Looks better?

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 Posted 02/05/2011  01:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am really glad you like the camera and you look to be taking some great shots with it. I have tried a few and that model is the best point and shoot for close up shots I have found to date, and you can't beat it for the price in my opinion. You can almost touch the lens to the coin and it will focus and take a clear shot. I usually touch up the WB in a program if its still a little off but usually its close enough for me but I have used a program once or twice to correct the WB more
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 Posted 02/05/2011  12:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sidekick-CA to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks guys and yeah I really do like the camera. Still getting used to it trying different things. Actually I think both of those touch-up jobs you posted look good. I had tried setting the wb against the image but it came out super gold so didn't pursue it. I've been using 3 lights with this coin. All mixed and at different distances. One is LED, one is a round flourescent and 3rd is one of those new curlycue low wattage mercury bulbs. One on each side and the LED in front. I'm new but don't think under-exposure could be the problem with direct lighting from 3 sources? Maybe I'm making it too complicated and should try just one light source like I know Bryan1315 does and he gets some great shots. flashinm, what is it in the foto that tells you the WB is off. Yes, the light on the right was furthest away.
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I could tell the white balance was off because of the greenish tint on the coin. Also, the left side of the image looks green and the right side more red. This is due to the different color temperatures of the lights you are using. It's probably best to just use one light or if you're using two or more, use the exact same bulb in each of them. You can also use a white sheet of paper to kind of do the job of a second light.

When I said it was underexposed, I just meant the picture was too dark. If you are using your camera's automatic exposure, it will base it's reading on 18% gray. Your coin and the white piece of paper are much brighter (this is the same reason snow pictures often come out gray instead of white). If your camera allows for exposure compensation, set that to plus 1 and see if that helps. Play with that setting until your background looks white.
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