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Valued Member
New Zealand
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I've had few enough of these in really good nick that I'm not sure if it is a proper full head. Opinions welcome on head and condition. Apologies for the photos. The autofocus is more theoretical. I think I need to try these again and focus manually.   Do not read this sentence.
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05/31/2025 04:42 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'm definitely not the expert on these, but I'd say no, not FHD. Will be curious to see what others have to say.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Picture of the head area is not clear enough to discern but here is the criteria for "Full Head" according to PCGS. Defining Full Head PCGS awards the Full Head grading designation to certain Standing Liberty quarters grading AU50 or better, with an exception as noted below. The FH designation applies to qualifying Standing Liberty quarters, with different criteria applying to the Type I (1916-1917) issues versus those used when grading Type II (1917-1930) specimens. Type I Standing Liberty quarters earn the FH designation when there is a clear and distinct separation between Miss Liberty's hair cords and her cap. Type II Standing Liberty quarters receive the Full Head designation when the helmet exhibits three complete and distinct leaves, a complete outline on the bottom of the helmet, and a clear ear hole on Miss Liberty's head. There is one notable exception when it comes to applying the Full Head designation on the rare 1918/7-S overdate. On these varieties, PCGS will appoint the FH designation to coins meeting the Type II Full Head standards for coins grading XF40 or better. |
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Valued Member
 New Zealand
166 Posts |
Better photo, but still not optimal. I'm not well-practiced with the macro lens. I'll give it another shot, but I'm only seeing the slightest hint of hair above the brow, although there is definition in the hair towards the back of the head, and the indentation of the ear seems evident.  Do not read this sentence.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Yeah that is a much better pic but sorry to say it is not FH. The hairline isn't defined enough and separated from the face and the three leaves aren't there. Still a nice earlier SLQ but not FH.
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Valued Member
New Zealand
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Thanks for the feedback and links to more info, MisterT. Much appreciated.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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Nice looking coin but I agree not FH
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United States
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I bought a BU 1924 SLQ years ago from a dealer who claimed it was a FH. I was just a teenager and didn't know any better, so I took their word for it. I later realized it was not--in fact, it's similar to yours.
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Valued Member
New Zealand
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Thanks for all the feedback. I don't feel hard done by. This was in amongst several ounces of mostly Commonwealth (UK, Australia, SAF) silver that I got for a little more than spot. There were some other nice pieces, but this was the cherry.
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05/31/2025 8:57 pm
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New Member
United States
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I have collected SLQs for 30 years and have some of the finest and many high end FHs.
PCGC, NGC, ANACS. Also WLH high end high keys. Yours could easily get FH certification as well as not and yet I've seen some very questionable one with FH from these jerks and even with the green CAC sticker.
I just don't know the key to it you may submit several times and finally get that final grader okaying it FH.
I had such disapointments withregrades where they return the coin with a lower grade(PCGS). When this number system started it was because of many dealers sellling in tyhe coin news ormagazines were not truly up front( as all of them SHOULD BE)
So these gimmicks rose and guaranteed the grade and authenticity. Well it's gone way too far sometimes the arrogance and almost disdin when sending back a graded coin is palpable.
Bottom line Try one of the 3rd party services and if you don't like whst you get resbmit, you may get lucky.By the way the coin head isn't ultimate but it's very close may be worth the try if it is not cleaned and UNC.
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United States
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 to the Community, believer!
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Valued Member
United States
120 Posts |
I collect these SLQ's and new to them so this post is very helpful to me I think finding some SLQ in this condition is hard as I've not even seen one as of yet.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Like the Buffalo nickel, the SLQ is tough to grade. The phrase "full head" is a bit of a misnomer, because what people are really seeking is a coin that is more fully struck than average. Standing Liberty quarters are difficult coins to grade because of multiple design changes and variable strike quality (especially the branch mint coins), die wear, and die clash polishing significantly affecting the appearance of the coin. This is especially noticeable on mid and lower grade coins. Your coin does not have a partially abraded shield (caused by aggressive die clash polishing), but many coins with abraded shields also have partially abraded heads from the same polishing. In those cases, a "full head" designation sometimes is given to a head that lacks some of the detail. That causes confusion over the standards, but correctly addresses the impact of die polishing on appearance, since the underlying strike quality is still sharp. That said, on your coin, the typically abraded areas are intact, and what you see with design flatness in the head is strike quality. Your coin is a nice one, but wouldn't meet the "full head" designation for more fully struck coins. Very nice coin, though! |
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New Zealand
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Thanks, believer and FC. Always good to hear other impressions and advice on grading. I've yet to submit any coins to any TPGs. This would probably be a candidate just out of curiosity.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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MisterT thanks for that link. I wasn't fully aware of what exactly a FH was, and I'm an avid collector of SL quarters.
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