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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
63514 Posts |
I'll say EF or AU.
Errers and Varietys.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1591 Posts |
XF-40, though it seems to be unevenly struck. Stars 5-7 are much sharper than the rest of the coin, so maybe I am a tad low.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1072 Posts |
Looks like a lot of luster on this one. Maybe the lighting, but I am going to say its a weak strike. AU 58
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Pillar of the Community
United States
6317 Posts |
Sure appears to have significant wear but there is some luster in protected areas. XF-45.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7080 Posts |
Sorry to be the devils' advocate but I see this one as a VF 35 coin. As mentioned there is significant wear. Visible on the talons, breast feathers, and hair, this would keep it out of XF range to me.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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XF45
quite a bit of the flatness is strike related
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Bedrock of the Community
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11168 Posts |
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.comEdited by numismatic student
09/26/2025 9:10 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I think it's a good buy for the price. I'm still in the XF45 camp and agree with Panzaldi's comment on strike weakness.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
11168 Posts |
Thanks for sharing your grades. My humble opinion is AU55 and am puzzled as to why someone else didn't snatch it.. Not really mad about it though...  IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1528 Posts |
Interesting coin.
Short of the stated grade, but still worth what what you paid.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
34628 Posts |
EF-45. Not crazy about the eye appeal of this one.
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Moderator
 United States
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Very nice!  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'm going to buck the trend here a bit. I'm at AU-50. Let me explain why. I see two areas of overlapping strike weakness: (1) the peripheral lettering is stronger than the central devices and (2) the top of the obverse and the opposing bottom of the reverse are much better struck than the rest of the coin. IMHO, grading needs to focus on the areas of stronger strike. The flow lines and uneven strike suggest a later die state and possibly a tilted die.
On the obverse, the hair curls on the forehead, LIBERTY, and the cap are strong, and show wear consistent with an AU coin. On the reverse, the detail in the arrows and talons (especially the eagle's right talon) are consistent with low AU. The circulation dings are also consistent with an AU coin, with just one deep hit between the date and thirteenth star and a few surface scratches. The only modern contact is the long E-W scratch above the clasp on the obverse. There is original luster, including a halo effect. That is consistent with AU. There may be an old cleaning, but it is market acceptable. The fingerprint on the obverse is a bit distracting. Taken together, IMHO the coin net grades to where PCI pegged it, AU-50.
That's probably the first time I've agreed with a PCI grade.
Nice coin, and a good price.
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Moderator
United States
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Good points. |
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Posted 09/22/2025 8:54 pm
