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demonboy279
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Posted 03/07/2006  11:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add demonboy279 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Message

ok I have several different canadian cents. I have one from the 40s and I've got several with queen elizabeth II on them from different years. Most of them say ELIZABETH II D.G. REGINA on them. except my 2004 cent which says ELIZABETH II D.G. REG F.D. 2004
but today I got a 1964 cent from a quarter machine recently put at my mall which has many different coins from diff countries. it says ELIZABETH II DEI GRATIA REGINA. whats the meaning in that and what all years did they change the design on the obverse. I know they made it look older with her age but how many times and when?

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Chuck
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ojo
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Posted 03/18/2006  10:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ojo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

I think they change the Queens age 2 times, im not sure when I know the last time was in 2003.
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Posted 03/18/2006  11:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Abyss to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

demonboy,

Dei gratia regina means : "Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God Queen."
The same like D.G. REGINA,but this time this is an abbreviation of the expression.
1953-1964 (Laureate effigy)had the obverse like the one you have
1965-1978 ( Queen with Tiara,that is a crown)had the new version of the Queen portret with "Elizabeth II D.G.REGINA"
1979-1989 ( modified Tiara)is the same obverse but made smaller to standardize,to make the effigy proportional to the diameter of the coin
1990-2003 changed the Queen's portret again,more mature ( a book I have it says this was the first design made by a canadian,doesn't give the name of the designer though)
2003 to today,Queen changed again,this time without crown and naturally a little bit more mature.
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Posted 03/19/2006  01:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Demonboy: Are you sure that 2004 coin is Canadian? I don't think any Canadian coins are supposed to have the "F.D." (Fidei Defensor, Defender of the Faith) part of her title on the coins. That one may be a British penny. They're the only two possibilities; Canada and Britain are the last two countries to give the Queen's titles in Latin. This is what the obverse on my 2004 Canadian cent looks like:


Abyss: The Krause catalogue lists the designer of the 1990-2003 Canadian obverse as "Dora dePedery-Hunt". The one pictured above is the current one, designed by "Susanna Blunt".
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demonboy279
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Posted 03/19/2006  03:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add demonboy279 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

No im not 100% sure. the reverse has a crown on a ate with chains on each side and says one penny instead of cent. ill get a scan tomorrow.
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Posted 03/19/2006  04:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

That's British, all right.
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demonboy279
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Posted 03/19/2006  05:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add demonboy279 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Thats news to me. I had no idea. thats the first british coin I've ever seen in circulation here.
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Abyss
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Posted 03/19/2006  10:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Abyss to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

quote:
Originally posted by Sap
Abyss: The Krause catalogue lists the designer of the 1990-2003 Canadian obverse as "Dora dePedery-Hunt". The one pictured above is the current one, designed by "Susanna Blunt".


Yes Sap,you're right,that's her name alright.That F.D on demonboy's question didn't make sense too me,because I've never seen it here,but now I know why.
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Georgiestar
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Posted 03/28/2006  2:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Georgiestar to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

quote:
Originally posted by demonboy279

Thats news to me. I had no idea. thats the first british coin I've ever seen in circulation here.


lol go england.. im suprised you havent found more.. I have found quite a few coins from the usa, because it gets mistaken as ours especially the cent and the dime... similar size, I even found a quater of a dollar once

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