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jdheyne
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 Posted 03/27/2006 2:27 pm
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Hey all.
I am not sure if many people here set up at shows, but a friend that sets up at most "local" shows was just telling me of one of his friends who also sets up went home missing nearly $8,000 in Proof and Mint Sets.
It was a 2 "man" show, him and his wife (Dealers). They (Crooks) had one person keeping each of those two tied up, and then a third person occasionally wanting something. Then whenever the focus went back to the two crooks, the third probably started pocketing things.
Hopefully if you set up, this will be kind of a head's up if you haven't been hit yet.
I am hoping this isn't going to give anyone else any crazy ideas.
I want to know what is going on in people's minds to think that they can just take from anybody they want.
One of the worst things I can think of is being stolen from. What you worked for, someone else just takes...
If there are any crooks out there reading this, get a job and do it like normal people.
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Edited by jdheyne - 03/27/2006 2:33 pm |
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scoutjim99
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Posted 03/27/2006 7:35 pm
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ageka can you tell me about your avatar that is quite the interesting coin
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CoinNut5
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USA
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Posted 03/27/2006 10:16 pm
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Speaking from experience at smaller venues it happens there too......be wary of anyone who sets something on your table.......especially if it is large enough to cover any items exposed on the table.......we had a couple do this at one of our tables about a year or so ago.......they use diversion by splitting the team apart and will usually try to time their exploit while there are several cutomers there....by walking up to the table and browsing they lay a small bag or other item on the table on top of the items they wish to steal........then all they do is scoot the item into a shopping bag or handbag and move on....leaving the bag to conceal the theft until they have had time to dissapear into the crowd........hope this helps
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humpybong
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Australia
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Posted 03/27/2006 10:21 pm
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What are we becoming....
You have to keep your eyes open these days...they would steal the gold fillings from your teeth if they could.
We all have this problem and I do not have an answer on how to fix it.
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Barry
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Edited by humpybong - 03/27/2006 10:21 pm |
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gshawn
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USA
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Posted 03/27/2006 10:38 pm
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When I was doing some research into what to expect for my first coin show, I stumbled across a dealer's blog and he was addressing the issue of coin theft at shows.
He talked about the type of sting you just mentioned, where one or more people keep the dealer busy while another person "stops by" with a question or even to make a small purchase. While the dealer is busy, his new "friends" start helping themsevles to his coins.
This dealer also told a horror story about the actual security guards at the coin show doing a large portion of the stealing too.
I've only been to one show, and I can see just how easy it would be for somebody to pick the place clean if they knew what they were doing. I went with my son and every table we stopped at, many of the dealers would go out of their way to talk to my son (rightfully so, keep the hobby alive..), but while talking to him, they had books and books of coins out on the table, just laying there waiting for someone to grab a coin or two.
One dealer handed me a book and told me to look through it to find some nice coins. Granted, they weren't million dollar coins, but some of them were $100+ dollar coins and while I was looking, he spent ten minutes talking to another dealer, with his back turned to me, paying no attention to me at all. In fact, I had to walk around to him when I was ready to pay.
According to the blog I read, the biggest coin theives are some of the other dealers at the show! This dealer I read said he doesn't leave his stuff unlocked, even when he's setting up! He said he lost (see had stolen) some 1000 dollar coin before a show because he was chatting with one dealer and, according to him, another dealer asked to see the coin and then later claimed he put it back, but the coin was gone. His only choices were to call his fellow dealer a liar, or just chalk it up to experience and move on.
If it were me, I would chalk it up to me beating the stuff out of the guy, but that's why I'm not in retail 
If I can find the link again, I'll post it so everyone can read it. Aside from the dealer aspect of going to a show, this guy had some really insightful stuff about us civilians going to these shows.
Most of it was common sense, but also the type of stuff that's easy to forget. Never discuss coins, collecting, or the show while walking to the show or returning to your car. Never flash coins outside the venue. Never conduct business outside the venue with someone "claiming" to be a dealer, regardless of how good their story is about why they left 10,000 bucks in coins in their room at the Hilton.
Most of that stuff is obvious, but it's also so easy to forget, especially when we're lulled into a flase sense of security.
Anyway, I'll try to find it and post it.
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thekidcollector
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Posted 03/29/2006 08:47 am
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Ah....A real sad person distruptin peoples whole lives worth of collection, I'm sorry to say but corruptions should never be introduced to coins!
Its just sad!
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pdizbon
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Posted 04/03/2006 01:15 am
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It is sad to say, but in most retail businesses theft all too common .
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