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1994 memorial cent What is this?  
 

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 Posted 02/08/2012  2:09 pm Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add asimpson91 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message

I found this cent. 1994 LMC Unc. Nice Luster but is this die deterioration? or what could this all be? Thanks!









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 Posted 02/08/2012  2:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add CaptainFwiffo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The reverse shows some conventional machine doubling, but I don't know what's going on with IGWT on the obverse. Maybe it's double-struck? Part of "UN" on the reverse looks like it fits with that too...
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 Posted 02/08/2012  2:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add asimpson91 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I thought maybe double struck in collar as well but still not sure. I'mthinking Coop would know
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 Posted 02/08/2012  3:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The area on the obverse is split plating. Possibly caused from die movement on the machine doubling.
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 Posted 02/08/2012  3:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe it is just me, and I know the obverse has gone through many slight changes over the years, but to me that bust of Lincoln just doesn't look right.
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 Posted 02/08/2012  4:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This might be one for Mike Diamond.
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 Posted 02/08/2012  6:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add asimpson91 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i hope mike diamond sees this then! THanks coop, not a double strike I'massuming? I was thinking of listing it on ebay. But obviously not if it isn't a true error! Hope more people can shed some light on this! Thanks for the comments!
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 Posted 02/08/2012  7:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Coppertop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
The area on the obverse is split plating. Possibly caused from die movement on the machine doubling.
Reverse Rejection doubling coop?
Edited by Coppertop
02/08/2012 7:51 pm
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 Posted 02/08/2012  8:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've seen this effect before -- on the obverse and in the same area -- but I don't understand it. Yes, the copper plating has split, but that doesn't explain why the letters are small and strongly offset. Yours is the best example I've seen and I'd like to write it up for Coin World. If this is to your liking, please contact me at mdia1@aol.com.
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 Posted 02/08/2012  8:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Reverse rejection? LOL Looks like classic machine doubling on the reverse.
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 Posted 02/08/2012  10:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add CaptainFwiffo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My hypothesis is double struck in collar. The stress of two strikes, first being forced up into the relief and then flattened because the second strike is slightly offset, is enough to cause the split of the plating and the distortion of the letters as the metal flows outward. Maybe it only happens in cases of thin or poorly bonded plating. It makes sense in my brain at least.

I'll be anxious to read Mr. Diamond's writeup.
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 Posted 02/08/2012  11:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it were doubled struck, wouldn't the rest of the devices be affected the same as well? Maybe an ejection issue.
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Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings
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 Posted 02/09/2012  12:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cladhunter13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


It will be interesting to read Mike's assessment if the OP allows Mike to examine the coin and do a write up for it.
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 Posted 02/09/2012  10:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add asimpson91 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Mike. I sent an Email
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 Posted 03/12/2012  5:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The article on this coin is in this week's Coin World. The tiny letters of exposed zinc are an unusual form of split plating doubling.
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 Posted 03/13/2012  10:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add IC Double to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Im curious would this be dropped lettering with split plating? This is a very unusual coin indeed though. Despite the fact split plating has no value but I'mcurious what something like this would go for because of its uniqueness.
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