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Coincarrie
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What are the most popular Morgan "coin turn" deviation? (Assuming I am wording this subject correctly.)

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Are you talking about die rotation? where one side is not exactly in coin alignment? I am not sure if you're asking which is most popular for collectors or most popular in how many exist.
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, Coincarrie!


If you mean orientation, US coins are "coin reverse", unless the dies rotate.

This means they flip around the 9-3 axis. Medal reverse coins flip around the 12-6 axis.
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I am trying to understand if there is a difference between a "coin turn" and a VAM. Is a "coin turn" a variation in the VAM documentation?
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All Morgan dollars are VAMs (die pairing by known obverse and reverse dies).

A specific rotation on a coin is not a VAM in itself, all coins could concievably have rotation.

Morgan dollars are pretty hard to find with more than 5% rotation, and any more than that will bring a good premium generally. I've seen a few 15%-180% they usually bring at least $100.00+ over the value of the grade and date the more the rotation the higher the price asked is generally the rule.
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Coin -Turn or die rotation, I believe is not a consideration until it goes beyond 15%,,,as the coin it self is considered...

There are many coins noted for "DIE ROTATION"
Usually these are known only by rotation itself...However when clashing occurs....Rotation evidence becomes increasingly evident.....
Usually on small rotations...of say, 2 degree's to say 7 degree's,,, in general we find LETTER TRANSFERS. which are
VAM points of interest....Most rotations I have seen are by nature Rotations...of per say 30, 45,90 or 180 degree's
but not ADVERTISED as letter transfers type errors...thats and interesting thought....
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Thank you for the information. Now I understand. I have some Morgans that look as if they are double stamped on the "T" .
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Which "T"? There are several, Liberty on the the headress forehead "In God We Trust" & United States on the reverse.
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