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1900 Indian Head Cent CUD?

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 Posted 02/26/2012  4:33 pm Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Darth Anarchus to your friends list Get a Link to this Message

I'm not great with identifying cuds, although I know about the process in which a die break becomes a CUD, however this one really confuses me because it doesn't fully extend to the rim. I know it has previously been cleaned from the looks of it, but I would like to know what everyone thinks of this one, and if this has any extra value, because this one's a bit confusing for me... The Cud is right around 3 o'clock on the obverse...















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 Posted 02/26/2012  5:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 14ers to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It may be just the photo but the color of the cud does not seem to match the coin. Could it be foreign matter of some kind stuck to the coin? I am no expert on cuds (or anything for that matter) but it seems to me by the ones I have seen, cuds can appear anywhere on coins. Nothing about the size, shape or location would say it is not a cud.
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 Posted 02/26/2012  5:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Darth Anarchus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm pretty sure it's the lighting, and the fact that someone just had to clean or polish this poor little Indian...
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 Posted 02/26/2012  6:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like foreign material encrusted to me not that I would know
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I'm guessing that's a piece of the die which broke off without reaching the rim. Contemplate what the die will look like, in order to strike what you see.
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 Posted 02/26/2012  6:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's interesting, because a cud would normally cross the denticles.
For a piece of the die to break out, there should be cracks leading to the cud.
If that's raised metal, I would guess a die blunder that dug an impression, but did not crack the die.
Too bad about the cleaning--VF 25 details.
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 Posted 02/26/2012  7:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Darth Anarchus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A piece of the die? How would that not fall off in 112 years? That's crazy to think about... But I have never heard of that, is it rare?
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 Posted 02/26/2012  7:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Darth Anarchus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What originally confused me about this piece is that there is no difference in detail on the denticles or the letters, and very little die deterioration compared to the later die stages from which cuds form...
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