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1921 Pilgrim...Raw

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 Posted 04/14/2012  10:58 am Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add TreeMonkey to your friends list Get a Link to this Message

Mintage: 20,053. Several of the rim legends appear to be "crushed", although this does not seem to be that uncommon with this coin. Also notice what I believe to be a planchet defect rather than PMD (reverse, starboard/aft). What do you think?








"Whoa, take 'er easy there, Pilgrim".

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04/14/2012 12:22 pm
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 Posted 04/14/2012  12:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ErrorCoins222 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Many of these were made with deteriorated dies so it isn't uncommon to see exactly what you see on this coin. I especially like the pilgrims with that large die crack on the reverse. I'm not sure what that mark is on the reverse though.
I really like it!
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 Posted 04/14/2012  12:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TreeMonkey to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A closer look at the die crack. Is this the one you are referring to EC?


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 Posted 04/14/2012  5:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ErrorCoins222 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, that's the one! It's very interesting.
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Can not determine from the photos between very lightly circulated and MS.

High points of the design (to check for circulation rub) are the hat and hair of Governor Bradford on the obverse and the stern of the ship on the reverse.

Nice coin ... well preserved and an exceptional example of USA coinage history.

Is this one of your PCGS submissions?

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 Posted 04/14/2012  10:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add COMET to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice coin, it looks to be in really good shape. High grade 1921 Pilgrims are pricey, not sure what the mark is on the reverse.
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 Posted 04/14/2012  10:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is the reverse "defect" raised or incused? If "in" the planchet, I wonder if it could be some sort of "struck through" situation?

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 Posted 04/15/2012  10:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TreeMonkey to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, this coin is now in the hands of PCGS. As for the blemish on the reverse, it is incused. I've heard that NCG deems die cracks as errors so I wonder how PCGS will view considering the die crack and crater.
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Strange incuse and awesome that it has die cracks. Don't hear much about those on commems. It'll be interesting to see what PCGS says about them.
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I like it. Very nice!
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 Posted 05/06/2012  11:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TreeMonkey to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I didn't mean to string this out so long but I've been on the road.


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Another MS64, congratulations.
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Lovely coin ... another great example for you set.

I see that I somehow did not offer a grade opinion on this one ... slipped by somehow ... I would have guessed MS64.

Thanks for sharing the updates ... looking forward to the new coins in your growing set of the greatest of all USA series.

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That is great it came back as a MS-64. It looks more like a 65 to me though.
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Another great looking coin and the "key" to the two-piece Pilgrim set.

It's great seeing the "before" and "after" shots -- going forward, will you continue to buy "raw" coins and submit them for grading/encapsulation yourself or will you buy coins already graded?

Looking forward to seeing your growing collection!

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