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Dansco album rant...(Can you tell I am in an ill mood today)

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ratio411
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Posted 11/02/2009  5:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add ratio411 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Message

I ranted about the mint quality control,
now on a related note...

I have collected mint and proof sets for years.
Looking forward to one day using the 'virgin'
coins in an album or some such method of storage
and/or display. Well, I recently got the bug
and started buying Danscos for my modern coins.

I am really disappointed though in what Dansco
chooses to put in their collections and what
they choose to leave out. Also in Dansco's choice
of binders...

So I have been buying the modern coin Danscos and
swapping in my mint/proof set coins to fill them up.
I think I made it abundantly clear that I am mad
about how bad the quality is of the mint supplied
coins now that they are out and truly visible.

However, I am very pleased with the quality
of the coin albums. As far as that goes, Dansco tops
any folder, album, or other coin storage that I have
used so far. At least any that offers ease of storage,
portability, and display all at the same time.

My rant is about the holes in the books.

Why, for example does the Kennedy set have separate
holes for SMS coins, as well as the same year coins???
Fine... I have SMS sets, so those holes got filled.
But then you go to any other album for those years,
AND THERE ARE NO SMS HOLES FOR THOSE COINS!
The SMS sets had more than just specially processed
halves in them. The other coins are just as good looking,
yet the other albums don't have places for them.

That's just one example.
Others that just irk me are the albums with holes
for errors. I am not an error collector and don't
see a need for empty holes in my album. Yet the same
album is missing holes for 'legit' coins that should
have holes. So I end up having to decide on getting
a blank page full of holes, to add to these albums,
just to put just a couple of legit coins. Now I have
holes for errors that will never get filled, I have
holes in the blank page that are empty forever, and
I don't have coins labeled that should be. I know,
it is petty to whine about, but hey...

Another thing is that they have albums from 5/8" to
1 1/4" thick. Why do they put some collections in
the fattest albums to squeeze them all together, but
then divide another collection up into multiple thin
albums??? If you can fit all the Lincolns into a fat
album, why do I need to buy 3 albums for my 1998-2009
quarters? If Dansco planned ahead, they would know
that a PDSS set 1998-2009 would fit in the same binder
as the 8100 Lincolns. Seems like they just want to
cash in on the state quarters and have folks buy 3
$24 albums, rather than one $30 album.

I could go on and on with inconsistencies etc...
but I won't make you all suffer. ;)

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hippiebrian
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Posted 11/02/2009  5:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hippiebrian to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Yet another reason I've given up on albums all togetherr and am putting my coins in 2x2's and 20 pocket sheets. It's easier to move them around when the collection changes, I have no annoying holes to fill that I really didn't want to fill anyway (i.e. errors) and when my time comes, it will be easier for my daughter, should she decide so, to sell them.

Just another thought...


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Jays-Dad
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Posted 11/02/2009  6:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jays-Dad to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

I agree on the inconsistency in the holes that they have. I agree that it is not cool to have my collection "determined" by the album, but I go with it anyway. Something has to make the decision. I have a Dansco Panama album that stops at 1963 (or is it 1962?). I try to fill the album, but still get the rest and put them in 2 X 2's. It is an arbitrary world!

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Posted 11/02/2009  6:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

It IS wacky...

Sometimes I ask myself, "What are those Dansco guys thinking?"

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ratio411
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Posted 11/02/2009  6:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ratio411 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Like I said, it's petty... I am just venting.

My 8100 cheezes me off because it has a hole for
a worn die 1922-D "plain" cent, error... But then
it doesn't acknowledge the fact that there are both
copper and zinc 2009 cents. Yet we all know it has
holes for 1982 coppers and zincs separately.

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I have been buying Airtites and hard plastic 2 pocket safe flips. I make up my own sets and can put them in pocket pages or in 2x2 boxes back to back in order. They are safe from further damage and they do look pretty attractive in my opinion.

If you really want to use Dansco albums the just unscrew the screws flip the pages backwards and upside down and write in what you want below each coin. For example, 1938 ( Jefferson nickel ) On the backside you can use cutouts from envelopes or small labeling stickers, lick em and stick em and put the short version of the date and the grade on it.
For example, 38 MS65 next might be 38D MS64


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Kabiye_Lady
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Posted 11/03/2009  08:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kabiye_Lady to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

That's an interesting comment about the SMS coins. Hadn't realized that before.

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TokenDave
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Posted 11/03/2009  09:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TokenDave to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

There is no doubt that Dansco album design decisions impact the "demand" side of coin prices. If Dansco specifies a certain error or overdate, Dansco users seek it and drive its price up. But, to be fair, the Dansco people are in a tough situation. They are probably wondering what the people at the Mint are thinking :-)

If you are an avid user of Dansco albums (as I am), consider supplementing their pre-designed albums with extra Dansco pages that hold 2x2 flips.

Also, consider using their custom printed binder service in conjunction with the pages that hold 2x2 flips to make your own album designs. As a token collector, I have 100+ custom printed Dansco albums. They look great on the shelves right next to the standard Dansco-designed ones.

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Jays-Dad
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Posted 11/03/2009  10:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jays-Dad to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

How do you get custom printed Dansco albums? I've never been able to find a Dansco website and all I've ever seen is the little "catalog" that comes with each Dansco album.

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TokenDave
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Posted 11/03/2009  10:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TokenDave to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Here is a sample of how I order directly from Dansco:


DANSCO Coin Albums

4313 W. Jefferson Blvd.

Los Angeles, California 90016



Folks at DANSCO,



Please ship the following items:



Extra Vinyl Pages -- 12 pocket (2x2) 40 @ $1.10 $44.00





Printed Binder (1" 5-6 pages) 1 @ $17.40 $17.40

Inscribed as follows:

Commemorative Tokens & Medals VIII

(For spine, use Commem. Tokens & Medals VIII or Comm. Tokens & Medals VIII)



Printed Binder (1" 5-6 pages) 1 @ $17.40 $17.40

Inscribed as follows:

Commemorative Tokens & Medals IX

(For spine, use Commem. Tokens & Medals IX or Comm. Tokens & Medals IX)



Printed Binder (1" 5-6 pages) 1 @ $17.40 $17.40

Inscribed as follows:

Numismatic Medals II



Printed Binder (1" 5-6 pages) 1 @ $17.40 $17.40

Inscribed as follows:

U.S. Mint Errors



Printed Binder (1" 5-6 pages) 1 @ $17.40 $17.40

Inscribed as follows:

Presidential Series Tokens II



Printed Binder (1" 5-6 pages) 1 @ $17.40 $17.40

Inscribed as follows:

U.S. Colonial Type II



Printed Binder (1" 5-6 pages) 1 @ $17.40 $17.40

Inscribed as follows:

Washington Medals II



Printed Binder (1" 5-6 pages) 1 @ $17.40 $17.40

Inscribed as follows:

World Tokens IV





Subtotal $183.20



Shipping and Handling (10%) $18.32



Total (Enclosed) $201.52


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ratio411
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Posted 11/03/2009  10:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ratio411 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Do you think they would agree to making me a 1 1/4"
binder using the lettering and inside printing labels
from a 7181? Seems like it would be an easy thing to do.
???

They just put the stick on inside printed labels from
the one album onto the thicker album... I need to ask
about that. I don't want to use 2 or 3 albums for one
set just because they split them up into several thin
albums.

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TokenDave
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Posted 11/03/2009  11:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add TokenDave to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

A 1 1/4" binder with 7181 spine and cover lettering is a Yes. Also, you can fill that 1 1/4 binder with any pages from any album that Dansco makes. But, will Dansco apply the inside cover sheets of a 7181 to a custom binder? It is not listed as an available custom service but it won't hurt to ask. Call them at 323-734-6373. Or Email them at DanscoCorp@aol.com



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jbuck
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Quote:
If you are an avid user of Dansco albums (as I am), consider supplementing their pre-designed albums with extra Dansco pages that hold 2x2 flips.

Been there, done that! An excellent suggestion!


Quote:
Here is a sample of how I order directly from Dansco:


As far as I know, Dansco will make any size binder say anything you want. I had no problems ordering replacement binders for some of my albums (some had gotten bigger since I bought them and I wanted the original size).

If you have any questions, I suggest you call them first and they will tell you exactly what you need to include in the mailing.

Dansco Corporation
(323) 734-6373
4313 W Jefferson Blvd
Los Angeles, CA 90016


Jbuck ... Coin Collector since 1978
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