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bwbollom
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 Posted 11/06/2009 5:49 pm
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I picked this up today for cheap, and I'm assuming that it's a 1917 type 1 because that would be more common, but I just wanted to check and be sure so I know which hole it goes in in my Dansco. I know that there are ways to tell the difference, but I just can't seem to figure it out. If anyone can help (and hopefully explain how to tell the difference), I'd really appreciate it. Here's the scan:
Thanks!
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Moe145
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United States
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Posted 11/06/2009 6:04 pm
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With only 52,000 1916 Standing Liberty Quarters minted versus 8,740,000 1917 Type 1s minted, your odds of randomly getting a 1916 is about .6 %. 
That being said, I would turn that quarter in every possible direction, with a magnifying glass or loupe, or better yet, photograph the coin with all different angles of light to try to see any curvature in the last digit of the date (looking for the curve of the 6 versus the straight lines of a 7).
It's certainly worth a shot! 
Good luck!
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Ferret552
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United States
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Posted 11/06/2009 6:26 pm
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I spy half of the top of a 6, but it's probably because I want to. 
But yeah, if there is any chance, you should get it checked out.
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Brewzz
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USA
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Posted 11/06/2009 6:56 pm
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Man,you guys got better eyes than me!I cant see any date at all...
Cheers,Brewzz
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bwbollom
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United States
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Posted 11/06/2009 7:09 pm
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I tried looking at it at all different angles, under different light, with magnification, etc. and I couldn't tell anything. So I decided to scan it in at as high a resolution as my scanner would go and see if I could see anything different. The first scan is just the coin as it came in. The second is with some crazy level adjustments in Photoshop to try to bring out any details. Then I pulled up a 1916 from eBay and scaled it to the same size to see if I could find any details that were matching. I'm sure it's just digital artifacts or my eyes playing tricks on me or me finding what I want to see, but I kind of see the curve of a 6 in all of that mess which matches up with the 6 of the one I brought in from eBay:
I'm still going to stay under the assumption that this is a 1917 type 1 until I can find anything to further verify otherwise. My crazy scanning and Photoshopping isn't enough to get me thinking it's more than a filler coin just yet. I thought there were some characteristics that could distinguish between 1916 and 1917 (SLQs besides just the date), but I can't seem to find info on it...
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biokemist6
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bwbollom
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United States
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Posted 11/06/2009 7:43 pm
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biokemist6:
Thanks! I think that explains that this is a 1917 SLQ...I'm pretty sure. Because of the amount of wear, I can't really use some of those distinctions, but the two that I think I could use would be the last one, "On the 1916, the top of Liberty's head goes up into the beaded inner circle at the top, while it is below that feature on the T-1," but I'm not sure how to tell the difference on that. It appears that on the one I have, Liberty's head does go up into the beaded inner circle, but I must be misunderstanding what that means.
The other one is "the shape of the lowest curl in Liberty's gown (on the 1916 it is "flatter" and goes to her ankle, while on the 1917 T-1 it curls upward toward the thigh)." I'm fairly certain that on the one I have, this part of the gown curls up, indicating that it is a 1917 t1. I can see a bit of difference in the curl of the high res scan vs the flatness of the 1916 from eBay that I have above for comparison.
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johnny54321
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USA
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Posted 11/06/2009 8:15 pm
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I've been looking for a dateless 1916 for a long time now. What you have is a 1917, I am 100% sure of that. Primarily by the hair curl. Also, the detail in the shield beads is that of a worn 1917(the 1916 beads are much weaker). Keep searching though! You might get lucky someday. :-)
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bwbollom
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United States
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Posted 11/06/2009 8:27 pm
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johnny54321:
Thanks for the info! I bought this not even thinking about the possibility of it being a 1916, but when I got home and went to put it in the album, I wasn't sure. I'm fine with it going in the 1917t1 spot...I paid barely anything for it and it fills a hole that wasn't filled before :) Would have been nice if I HAD accidentally purchased a 1916 though...
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